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Young Veronicastrum plants dead after winter?

Last autumn I planted perennials for my new garden (starting from P9 pots). After winter my Veronicastrum and Eupatorium are still completely gone. I know the upper part dies in winter but I would have expected any sign of life by now (beginning of April), as with all the rest of my perennials.

I'm afraid those plants died, or is this normal for those particular types? I'm pretty sure I planted them in the right circumstances and soil. There was also some cacao mulch between the plants to protect from heavy frost (the winter was actually quite soft..) Should I just wait or give the soil where they are some help/fertilizer? How can I check if they are dead? Any tips from folks that are familiar with these plant types?

Many thanks!


  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 10,928
    I grow both and no signs of life on either yet here.
    They're both quite late coming back - the veronicastrum first them the eupatorium a few weeks later.
    I've had both for 10+ years

    Billericay - Essex

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  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 11,935
    Hello Vincent  :)
    I thought my Veronicastrum had died, but when l dug them up carefully a couple of weeks ago, l found that the root systems were fine and there were also signs of very small shoots that l couldn't see when they were in the ground.
    They seem to be slow in getting going and are behind my other perennials. 
    I suggest you try the same and see if there are signs of life.
    A lot depends on whereabouts you are as well.
  • Thanks for the comments!
    Ok good to hear. I'll try to do the same! By when are they usually coming back after winter? Is it then rather May or something?

  • LynLyn Posts: 22,859
    My Veronicas are not showing yet either, but they will, same every year.  Same with my Black n Blue salvias.  Patience is needed. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 9,586
    They're always among the later perennials to put in an appearance here too. I'd expect to see some signs of life from them in the next month or so.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • Bee witchedBee witched Posts: 1,237
    I grow both and no sign of them yet here (Scotland).
    The old foliage is still on as that gives them some protection over winter,  but it will be taken off soon .... probably later this week.
    I wouldn't dig them up or disturb them, but just wait a few weeks to see if they start growing.
    Bee x
    Gardener and beekeeper in beautiful Scottish Borders  

    A single bee creates just one twelfth of a teaspoon of honey in her lifetime
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,342
    ...this is Veronicastrum 'Temptation', just showing through in Norfolk.

    East Anglia, England
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 11,935
    They are later as l've discovered !  I did have to move them anyway as they'd been put in the wrong place, but l never did have much patience 😊
  • I had my doubts about my Eupatorium and I was going to dig it up next time the weather was warm enough. Think I will stay my hand and live in hope.
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