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Wrigs21Wrigs21 Posts: 192
So the perennials are starting to awaken however not convinced all are going to come back. Appreciate early days but how to you decide when a plants not going to make a come back? Example would be the Agastache (Blue Fortune), few have already started sprouting but no movement at all in others 


  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,569
    way too early to worry. 
  • pansyfacepansyface Posts: 22,320
    Sure as eggs is eggs, if you dig ‘em up to find out you’ll regret it. 😁
    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
    If you live in Derbyshire, as I do.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,569
    I grow Cautleya Robusta and it can hide until the end of May before making an appearance
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,050
    Yep leave well alone.
    Building a garden is very personal. It's not quite the same as installing a boiler.
    James Alexander Sinclair 
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 9,613
    Some agastache are always late starting here (Black Adder is late, the white ones I grew from seed are 8 inches tall already). Helianthus are always late too. Others are well up and growing by now - lupins, phlox and some of the asters for example. Give them at least another month, maybe two depending what they are, before you give up.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,270
    Some Roscoeas don't come through until June. I have giveen them a bed on their own, and I usually hand weed it on my hands and knees.  Before that I would regularly stick a fork through a clump.
  • Wrigs21Wrigs21 Posts: 192
    Cheers all. Wasn’t going to touch any yet but wasn’t too sure how long to give it 😁
  • Wrigs21Wrigs21 Posts: 192
    Evening all 

    So I’m fairly confident my agastache blue fortune and Monarda have had it and won’t be making a return. Any suggestions for replacements? It’s south west facing and on a hill so soil can be dry. Ideally 1m high or so 😁
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 53,982
    Helianthemums are always a good bet for a drier position. Veronicas and Lychnis too.  :)
    Salvias, although they can need overwintering in many areas, or cuttings taken. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....

    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 9,613
    I agree with all of @Fairygirl 's suggestions.

    Also, all types of verbascums do well here (dry and sandy) so you could look at those. V. phoenicium has flower spikes getting on for the height you want from a low rosette of leaves. V. chiaxii similar but a but more "chunky" somehow. Perhaps not V. olympicum and V. bombyciferum - they are taller. And very yellow.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
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