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Which Clematis to plant?

Papi JoPapi Jo Posts: 4,220
edited March 2022 in Plants
I want to replace a deceased honeysuckle with a Clematis. Currently I have: Clematis ‘Early Sensation’, C. ‘Guernsey Cream’, C. ‘Jackmanii’, C. ‘Samaritan Jo’ and C. 'Saphyra Double Rose'.
It will be growing up a lattice 2 metres high and 2 metres wide, so am looking for a Clematis which would eventually grow up to 2 to 2.5 m. and cover at least 1m. wide.
Aspect S. West; dappled shade, soil originally heavy clay but has been regularly improved.
Will be located between the C. 'Saphyra Double Rose' and a thriving Aconitum napellus specimen. Flowering period: May or June to September. Colour white or light pink.
I do not want a C. montana (too vigorous) not C. armandii (too vigorous and I have 2 of those die on me in the past so they're banned from the garden now.)
Taking into consideration all these parameters plus availability, I have reduced my current choice to 2 clematis, but am open to other suggestions.
  • C. alpina Albina Plena
  • C. Maria Skłodowska Curie
I'd like to hear from fellow forum members who actually grow these 2 Clematis in their garden, or who can suggest other varieties, taking into account my wishes.
Looking forward...
You are invited to a virtual visit of my garden (in English or in French).
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  • Papi JoPapi Jo Posts: 4,220
    edited March 2022
    ...
    You are invited to a virtual visit of my garden (in English or in French).
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,021
    I don't know either of those two @Papi Jo tho I do like alpinas and plan to try them here.   Too cold for them in my Belgian garden.

    I can recommend Etoile Rose for its lovely flowers and long flowering period - https://clematisontheweb.org/new-clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=526 or Hagelby Pink if you want something paler - https://clematisontheweb.org/new-clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=3206 and there is a white version - https://clematisontheweb.org/new-clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=634 


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  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,499
    Have you considered any of the Viticellas @Papi Jo?  I grow a purple variety in dappled shade called Etoile Violette but there are pink and white varieties too. It's the only Clematis I've had any success with!  It has a long flowering period, I grow it over an arch, just over 2 meters high and a meter wide. Taylors have a wide range: Clematis viticella - Taylors clematis  Hope this helps.
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,894
    I grow alpinas, and have a couple of them. I have one of the whites, but not the one you mention. I think you'd be fine with that one though. I've only had mine a short while. It's just coming into growth now. 
    The other one I have [Constance]  is about to flower. It covers a space of about 2 metres wide and about the same in height, but I have to train stems in because the fence I have it on isn't quite that height. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,894
    I came across the label for my white one when looking for seeds, and it is C. Albina Plena. D'oh! I don't think I have any photos of it in flower, but it's very pretty. They prefer better draining soil to the larger flowered types. I grow all my alpinas and macropetalas in raised beds and up against the fences or walls to keep them a bit drier. 

    There are loads of clems which would suit, depending on the colours and timing you're after though. Many of the Group 2s and 3s would be fine. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Maria Curie is quite a new variety so I don't suppose many have experienced it yet. 
    All the atragenes are lovely but while it's heartening at this time of year to have blooms, in a small garden like mine I feel a bit cheated by a non- flowering space the rest of the year 🙂
    You might want to look at Mandy and Liberty, though i guess you've already gone through the agonising choosing process once
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,894
    If you grow a Group 2 alongside your early, small flowered types @muckyhandsmike , they can work well together. I have a white Group2 [Miss Bateman] near a macropetala [Lemon Dream] and they flower at the same time for a while, then Miss. B carries on. The new growth on Miss B is quite different from the macro, so if you need to prune, it's not difficult to tell them apart either.  :)
    They both have other planting around them to have some other flowering later too.
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Papi JoPapi Jo Posts: 4,220
    Thanks again for the recent comments!
    @mikeymustard I've looked at Mandy and Liberty, yes, long-flowering, but colour too similar to the ones I already have, especially too similar to C. 'Saphyra Double Rose' which will be almost its neighbour.
    Taking into consideration the flowering duration factor, I have come across C. jackmanii Forever Friends (Zofofri). Seems to fit the bill in general. Anyone knows it?

    You are invited to a virtual visit of my garden (in English or in French).
  • Fran IOMFran IOM Posts: 2,851
    @Papi Jo I have Jackmannii (Blue Flower) which actually came from Poundland a few years ago and is somewhat similar. I wouldn't consider it to be a blue flower but more mauve or purple in my opinion. It just went on flowering.

    This was it last year.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,894
    I've got it @Papi Jo and it's been a huge disappointment. Supposed to be fine in some shade, so I put it in what should have been a good spot. Wasn't really thriving, so I decided it might be better in another site with a little more sun available. I lifted it last year and re potted it until I could find a better place for it. Let's just say - I'm still waiting for it to grow.... ;)

    You might be more fortunate though.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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