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Daisy BeeDaisy Bee Posts: 7
Looking for advice !  I have a new border on the lower level of my garden where I would like to plant both a clematis and a jasmine.  My idea is to train them up the fine wire fence (you can't see the border in the picture but it's on the lower level just under the fence).  What type of clematis and jasmine should I look for as I would ideally want ones that give lots of flowers and scent (jasmine) and hopefully ones that attract more little birds into my garden together with more butterflies, bees etc.    There are some very big trees overhanging my garden so the border itself will not get much (if any) direct sun. Many thanks for reading ! 


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  • FairygirlFairygirl west central ScotlandPosts: 46,098
    Loads of clematis will suit, but it'll depend on the amount of space you have. Can you take a photo of the actual space they'd be going into? I'm slightly confused by the photo. Is the wire fence that bit behind the pots?
    You'd need to clear the gravel away and make sure the planting hole is suitable too.

    Jasmines aren't hardy everywhere, so your climate and conditions will dictate whether it's suitable. I doubt if they do so well in very shady sites either, but someone else who grows them will be able to help with that. They don't thrive here :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....


  • Daisy BeeDaisy Bee Posts: 7
    Hi Fairygirl - the border has already been dug out.  It's on the other side of the fence on the lower level (you can't see this in the picture).  In your opinion would it be better to go for two clematis.  Do any of them have a scent ?  
  • FairygirlFairygirl west central ScotlandPosts: 46,098
    They aren't really scented as such, although montanas have a vanilla smell, and some of the early ones have a scent - but it's subtle. They aren't like roses etc.
    Is the length in the photo the entire length you want to plant up?
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....


  • Daisy BeeDaisy Bee Posts: 7
    It's not no, it's about 5-6' long and about 2' wide.  My landscaper built a wooden surround and then lined it.  It's just waiting for the plants but I wanted to wait until early Spring.  I'll see if anyone else has any tips as would really like a climber that is easy to grow and gives me some lovely scent and is somewhere for the little birds to hide.  
  • FairygirlFairygirl west central ScotlandPosts: 46,098
    One clematis will fill that easily. You might be able to fit an early one and a later one in, but the pruning can become more difficult. The early ones don't get pruned.
    Birds will only hide in climbers if they're in a suitable site.  :)
    Your location/climate will dictate what other climbers suit, as I said earlier. If you can give more info about all of that, it'll help.
    A rose might be ok there, but I don't grow them.
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....


  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 18,411
    There is a clematis viticella called Betty Corning which has a lovely sweet scent. It will grow in sun or shade. Not always easy to find though. It will grow taller than the fence so would have to be trained sideways.

    I have a Jasmine growing up a wall of my house on the shady side, there when I bought the house. It does flower but I think it would flower more in the sun.
    Dordogne and Norfolk
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 18,411
    Meant to add - viticellas are group 3 so you cut them down in February and they make all their growth again.
    Dordogne and Norfolk
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