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Francis E Lester question

Hello, does anyone grow this rose? i am contemplating getting it and would like to know if it is self-cleaning or at least moderately so. i hesitate between this one and Lykkefund as i read Lykkefund drops its petals cleanly, buti like the FEL petals more... 


  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 6,354
    Yes it drops clean.. it's single flowered.. it's the double flowered types that can have problems, but don't deadhead it as you will get lots of hips in autumn.. 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 77,390
    It is a very pretty rose

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  • thank you, Marlorena, for your quick reply... yes, i read about the lovely hips!
    that's good news about the petals! it will be a bit smaller and thus more manageable than Lykkefund, no? though with more thorns, from what i have read. which one would you recommend from the two? i have to add that my summers are hot and dry... right now i am tending towards FEL, but i would be grateful for any additional info about them. 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 6,354
    ...which country are you in please?
  • Southern Romania, this would be 7a/b, very hot and dry summers (it is flatland), cold winters but lately ever less cold, maybe just one snow episode per winter. 
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Billericay, EssexPosts: 8,530
    edited September 2021
    I used to grow it on my pergola - not a great pic
    A lovely rose. It's extremely vigorous
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  • @Dovefromabove, it is indeed so pretty, and such a lovely photo, thank you! 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 6,354
    Oh ok, Romania,... you can grow superb roses there, I've seen them in pictures..

    Some nice photos of FEL, that's a beauty... here's a close up of the single flowers in a cluster.. I don't have it in my current garden, but I grew it elsewhere.. I have not grown Lykkefund. are the pros and cons of both..

    They are both once blooming.. FEL is said to be scented of oranges and bananas, but I never could quite get that strength of scent by the windy seaside here.. the foliage is beautiful and it is a shorter bushier rose than Lykkefund... It is rather thorny and can be trained on a fence, like a short bushy rambler..  it develops small hips..

    Lykkefund is much larger, expect over 20 feet and to its advantage is thornless.
    It has a sweet musky scent but there are no hips on this rose.  The flowers are semi-single,  creamy yellow fading to white..  it is recommended for growing through a tree as it has a dense arching habit..

    Up to you which you choose... 
  • @Pete.8, wow, so gorgeous! hard to resist it! is it true that the scent is so intense that it travels through the garden? this has sparked my imagination as well... 
  • @Marlorena, another marvelous photo (i have been quietly admiring your garden for a long time now, looking through the old threads). i am just at the beginning, hopefully some day i will also have such lovely images to post...

    how long were the canes of your FEL then? the infos on different sites are so contradictory, from 3 m to 6m (10 to 20 feet).
    my plan is a bit complicated, hopefully i will succeed, i want to grow it partly as ground cover, partly trained over a 6 feet tall wire fence, but i would like some of it to spill on the other side of the fence and continue as ground cover for a rather ugly spot. i imagine it this way at least :) would both work for this or should i prefer Lykkefund 's arching canes? 
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