Rose structures - canes arched, bent and stuck into the ground?

Camelliad

Just musing - I've always meant to ask - on occasion I've visited gardens that  had some roses where the canes arched up and over and looked as though they had been stuck back in the ground. So the rose itself forms a structure, rather than being supported. I'm not sure I've explained it well but I've never seen anything like it outside of those two or three gardens. Does anyone recognise that description and if so I'd be really grateful if you could explain why it's done? I've seen it before but only noticed it when the canes are bare.

Lizzie27

I think the rose canes are pegged down all round in a circle which has the benefit of promoting better bloom growth and also makes a visually pleasing dome structure. I believe you have to choose suitable roses with flexible canes to do it.

Camelliad

Thank you @Lizzie27 - that would make sense. It does look lovely and yes dome shaped. 

Obelixx

Have a look at this - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=how+to+peg+roses&sxsrf=ALeKk00qiwPC65JPnCvNA4OmDZc_DkSYtw:1629748215617&source=hp&ei=9_sjYb-gI8uSlwSMkrfYDw&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYSQKB0f9diuaXX7BGBdbnPTAjXxfXR6h&oq=how+to+peg+roses&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEIAEMgYIABAWEB46BAgjECc6CwguEIAEEMcBEKMCOgUILhCABDoFCC4QywE6BQgAEMsBUN0BWO0oYK4raABwAHgAgAHuAYgBmQ-SAQYxMS4yLjOYAQCgAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwj_99mb9cfyAhVLyYUKHQzJDfsQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#kpvalbx=__vsjYdCbAcSYlwSE_p3QCg26 

Dovefromabove

This video showing how to peg roses may be of interest 
https://paulzimmermanroses.com/gardening/training-roses/pegging-roses/ 
😊 

Camelliad

Thank you @Obelixx and @Dovefromabove. That's really useful. Now I know that it is called "pegging". I have learned something new! I'll watch those videos later.

Has anyone done this? Can anyone recommend roses that would lend themselves well to this type of treatment? I'm guessing it would need to be a shrub rose but perhaps a taller growing one.

Omori

Old garden roses are often used as they often have long, flexible canes. Bourbons, for example. Not all are suitable but many are. 

Obelixx

I did it in my last garden with Sceptr'd Isle, a David Austin English rose - repeat flowering and lovely perfume.   Having seen the way the grow in this new, to me, garden, I expect Fighting Temeraire and The Lark Rising would be good subjects and also any of the roses DA say can be grown as short climbers tho I wouldn't try Gertrude Jekyll without very thick gloves.  She has vicious thorns!

Buttercupdays

My 'William Lobb' grew that way of its own accord this year and had many more flowers than usual and looked wonderful. I will try to move one or two things to give it more space and improve the effect for next year.  I am contemplating doing it with 'Cerise Bouquet' too, as that also has long, flexible canes. 

Dovefromabove

Have you visited the rose garden at Helmingham Hall where this method of training the roses is practiced ... Xa Tollemache also uses a framework to train the roses over before pegging them down  

https://www.helmingham.com/rose-supports/

Nollie

I would love to try pegging a rose. My Golden Celebration has long, floppy canes and that would be an ideal candidate to experiment on but I don’t have the space to do so.