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New border - what to plant

I will be getting a new border, similar to the picture about 60cm X 4m. 

I have some peony bushes, a flamingo tree, some crocosmia, nandia gulf stream, echinaecia, pestemon in pots that I could use, but I am a bit lost! 

I would like all year interest and some height, maybe a climbing rose in an obelisk? 

Any ideas appreciated. 


  • philippasmith2philippasmith2 Posts: 3,688
    You will always be a bit limited with the 60 cm but perhaps if you gave the orientation of the new border, whether it is in the open or backed by a fence/wall and whether or not you want to include all the plants mentioned or wish to have some pots/containers :)
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,851
    Yes - that's important re the aspect and what else you have around the border.
    Re your plants, things like that willow will need quite different requirements from something like Echinaceas or Peonies, as it needs copious amounts of water. They will also prefer a good, sunny site. 
    Did you mean Nandina?   :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....

    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Thanks so much. It is against a south facing fence. Here is a picture of the place for the border, taken from the other side to try to show overall depth/size. It’s approximately 7 ish meters to the other side where I am standing. 

    Would 1.2 meters (1200mm)  be sufficient depth for the flower bed?

    Is there a golden rule re:proportions? Apols from a novice! 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,015
    If you look up a plant on something like the RHS website it will give you eventual height and spread as well as requirements for soil, moisture, aspect etc.   The wider the border the more plants you can accommodate without having everything flopping out over paths and lawns.

    This article is a good start and gives links to ther sites that can help with planning a border - 

    Climbing roses are rarely suitable for growing on an obelisk as they flower better when their stems are trained horizontally or diagonally but you could easily train one along the fence by attaching trellis panels or tensioned wires.
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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,851
    No need to apologise @emsy.angel.22 - we were all novices at one point, and it's good that you're asking the question before tackling anything. Easier than having to shift stuff etc later on   ;)
    As @Obelixx says, it's always good to just research a bit about the eventual size your plants might reach, although they're really a guide only. Your own climate and conditions can make a big difference, but it will give you a hint as to what to expect. 
    1.2 m will give you a nice depth to plant into, and having your rose on the fence is a much better idea. It [the fence] looks in good nick too, which helps. You'll have room for something else too, depending on the eventual size of your rose. Lots of clematis will suit, if you like those, and an early one [March/April/May]would be good to give you a succession of flowering. Avoid montanas though, as they'll be too overpowering for the space if you want a climbing rose too.  
    Placing the pots out once you have your bed in place is a good way of working out the arrangement, and you can do repeat planting to give a uniform look. That just means using a few plants together [ideally a group of plants you really like the look of ] and then putting more of those same plants again further along the bed. That allow you to have other specimens for various times of the year in and around them. A couple of evergreens can be useful so that you don't have a lot of empty ground over winter. There are lots which will suit - Hebes will like the aspect. You'll have your Nandina too, which will be evergreen or semi evergreen.  Adding some later flowering perennials like Asters will help prolong the colour. 
    You can also plant loads of spring bulbs with any perennials, and that gives you a succession of colour. Lots of those to choose from, and it won't be long before they're available for ordering, so you can do a bit of research into them by looking at some of the bulb specialists online. It's always risky though, unless you have a large bank balance  ;)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....

    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Very excited! 120cm deep bed was built today   
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,851
    Looks good. Now for the fun of planning your planting  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....

    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • I am thinking early flowering clematis one side, late flowering clematis the other side, and a climbing rose in the middle, to start with…
  • Also peonies for early colour and maybe lillies for mid-summer…
  • Mrs_MigginsMrs_Miggins Posts: 60
    edited July 2021
    No border is complete without some salvias! They flower for months and months, come in all sizes and colours and need little/no feeding. And some trellis with spots to pop in annual climbers like morning glory or thunbegia, or a couple of clematis ( which will appreciate the shade from other plants at their bases). There's clematis that flower at different times of the year so a winter flowering one will really lift that wall. 

    I'm also currently loving osteospermum for their super long flowering season. Need watering regularly though. 
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