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Very tall rose ID please

I have a beautiful rose growing in the garden, and I have no idea what it is.

It is growing out of the top of a large camellia plant. I would say the roses are standing at around 10 foot. 

Many thanks 

Ps my photos keep turning around when posting. Not sure how to change the orientation 😕


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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,490
    Lovely rose, sorry I don’t know which one it is, but it could be much taller than normal  because it’s growing up towards the light, being swamped by the camellia! Is it fragrant, what does it smell of? Assuming you can reach it to find out!

    The sideways photos is a glitch on the site, if you crop them slightly before posting, it seems to right itself, like this:


    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Thank you @Nollie

    I have just went and smelt the flower and it has a very strong sweet fragrance. It's a shame its not lower down so we could really smell it. 

    That makes a lot of sense re it reaching up the sun as otherwise its completely blocked by the plant.

    Thanks re the pictures, I will ensure I crop them from now on. The picture that you cropped already looks better, and no having to rotate my phone to see it.

    Thanks again 
  • YviestevieYviestevie Posts: 7,063
    Looks a bit like Gertrude Jekyll
    Hi from Kingswinford in the West Midlands
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,490
    Gertrude Jekyll, does have a classic, strong, sweet rose fragrance, but those very big clusters of ruffled, not quartered, blooms don’t look quite right to me. GJ has large, wicked thorns, which is always a clue.. in fact, some close-ups of the lower canes showing thorns and of the new shoots/buds might help if that’s possible?

    Also, does it repeat flower now and then throughout the rest of the summer or does it give you just one big lovely show around about now, like a once-flowering rambler would?

    Sorry, more questions than answers!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Rosa albertine 
  • Nollie said:
    Gertrude Jekyll, does have a classic, strong, sweet rose fragrance, but those very big clusters of ruffled, not quartered, blooms don’t look quite right to me. GJ has large, wicked thorns, which is always a clue.. in fact, some close-ups of the lower canes showing thorns and of the new shoots/buds might help if that’s possible?

    Also, does it repeat flower now and then throughout the rest of the summer or does it give you just one big lovely show around about now, like a once-flowering rambler would?

    Sorry, more questions than answers!
    Thanks again, I find it so interesting learning about what we have in the garden. 

    I have taken these two pictures, I hope they are OK? I cut some back to put in a vase. 


  • Apologies @Nollie my husband thinks the flower repeat blooms. I could not remember 
  • Rosa albertine 
    Thanks very much. Is mine too pink to be Rosa albertine? I have read that the Rosa is more Salmon? 
  • Thank you @Yviestevie I do love Gertrude Jekyll. It will be interesting to see what Nollie thinks after the new pictures.

    I wonder if I could try and take a cutting to plant it against my pergola? 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,490
    Hi, Your last photo is helpful, don’t think it’s Albertine, yours is too deep a pink with cool lilac tones, and still not convinced it’s GJ. Not typical bloom clusters, plus the foliage looks too shiny - mature foliage is more a matt green and the young growth looks like this with pinkish red-tinged leaves and thorns, at least on my GJ:


    Sorry, still hoping others might recognise it for you.. @Marlorena, @edhelka any ideas?
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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