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Can someone identify this rose please?

I purchased a rose from a local garden centre at the beginning of April. It was labelled as a David Austin alberic barbier rambling rose.

As the buds started to develop I was thinking this does not seem to be an Alberic, as the buds were a dark pink.

The flower has now opened and is pink, definitely not the light cream / yellow I was expecting.

I contacted the garden centre, who were frankly quite rude, and made me feel like I had not purchased it from them.

They wanted me to dig the plant up and try and squeeze it in its original container (it has grown a lot) I said I will try and put it in the original container, but as its grown this may not be possible. They said it needs to be in original container so they can sell it again (a flower that they dont actually know what it is, as I sent them pictures).

There was no apology at all on their behalf for their mistake.

Anyway I am now wondering should I just keep the rose? It seems such a shame to dig it up. However I wanted a climber of a rambling rose (to grow up my pergola) and  I do not know if this is a climber?

Can anyone recognise the rose please?

Apologies for the amount of writing, I am quite irritated by the garden centre. 


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  • NollieNollie Girona, Catalunya, Northen Spain.Posts: 5,952
    Shocking behaviour on the part of the garden centre, it’s clearly not Alberic Barbier! A photo of the rose, the original pot/label it came with and your receipt should be more than sufficient to get a refund/exchange. If you dig it up and trim the roots you could probably squeeze it back into the pot, but at this time of year it would immediately wilt and might not even survive the trauma, so the GC gains nothing.

    I don’t suppose you have a photo of the rose in it’s pot before you planted it out? The foliage is sufficiently different to AB that it could have been clearly identified as ‘Not Alberic Barbier’ with just that, even without the blooms..

    It looks rather like the DA rose ‘ Eustacia Vye’ but as I don’t have that, I don’t know for sure if it is, but hopefully someone can identify it for you. DA would refund the GC if it was a mislabelled rose, it happens sometimes and if you had bought it direct from them, they would’ve sent you the right rose and let you keep the wrong one too. Maybe worth contacting DA customer service direct to see if they can help?
  • edited June 2021
    Thank you so very much for responding. Its very much appreciated @Nollie

    I am so very disappointed with the Garden Centre, their attitude was not nice at all. 

    I have just looked at the flower you mentioned, and that looks a lot like my one. If it is DA rose ‘ Eustacia Vye’ I am very disappointed as its a shrub and not a climber / rambling. We have planted it in an area that you don't really see until it grew up the pergola. 

    It's a good idea what you said re cutting it back to fit in the pot. 

    These are the pictures of when I originally purchased, and after it's planted and grown a bit (bottom image was the day it was planted).


  • NollieNollie Girona, Catalunya, Northen Spain.Posts: 5,952
    That’s a great photographic record you have. If it were me, I would take those photos, the pot and label etc. to the GC with the receipt. Only a climber from DA comes with the crossed cane support, so the error clearly originates from DA. But the purchase contract is with the GC.

    This is rose geeky stuff, but Alberic Barbier has darker, more pointed leaves and bronzy/red new stem growth, so the leaves are clearly different and you can tell them that (so they can’t accuse you of trying to deceive them) and even show them some photos of AB foliage from here:

    https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.104&tab=36

    If they will only give you a refund for the dug up rose, well that’s their problem if it doesn’t survive but just make sure you agree a refund before you dig it up!

    Alternatively, if you like the rose and have an alternative spot to plant it, keep it and buy an AB from someone else. It’s not the ideal time to move a rose though, better when it’s dormant in winter.
  • Balgay.HillBalgay.Hill Posts: 698
    As well as dealing with the GC, I would also email all this to DA and tell them the GC is being unhelpful. I'm pretty sure you would get a good response from DA.
    Sunny Dundee
  • SlipperyElmSlipperyElm Posts: 379
    DA would be able to identify the rose you bought, too. 

    I think, like Nollie, that it is 'Eustacia Vye' which is a lovely rose and it would be a crime against horticulture to kill it.  If you contact DA with all your informaton and photographic record, and give them the name and address of the garden centre, I think they'll be able to advise you and possibly offer a replacement.  Certainly worth a try.  Best of luck.
  • Thanks so much @SlipperyElm
    I agree with you, I don't think I can bring myself to dig up and perfectly healthy plant. Also it does look beautiful and the smell is wonderful.

    I will definitely contact DA and explain whats happened. 

    I don't mind mistakes too much, but it was the attitude afterwards. Especially as I have spend hundreds of pounds at that garden centre. 

    Many thanks 
  • Nollie said:
    That’s a great photographic record you have. If it were me, I would take those photos, the pot and label etc. to the GC with the receipt. Only a climber from DA comes with the crossed cane support, so the error clearly originates from DA. But the purchase contract is with the GC.

    This is rose geeky stuff, but Alberic Barbier has darker, more pointed leaves and bronzy/red new stem growth, so the leaves are clearly different and you can tell them that (so they can’t accuse you of trying to deceive them) and even show them some photos of AB foliage from here:

    https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.104&tab=36

    If they will only give you a refund for the dug up rose, well that’s their problem if it doesn’t survive but just make sure you agree a refund before you dig it up!

    Alternatively, if you like the rose and have an alternative spot to plant it, keep it and buy an AB from someone else. It’s not the ideal time to move a rose though, better when it’s dormant in winter.
    Thanks so much, all your information is so helpful and greatly appreciated. 

    I think I have decided to keep the Rose, and I will dig it up in winter like you suggested.

    I think I will put in a complaint to the garden centre though, more on the attitude of their Manager.


    Thanks again very much 
  • As well as dealing with the GC, I would also email all this to DA and tell them the GC is being unhelpful. I'm pretty sure you would get a good response from DA.

    DA would be able to identify the rose you bought, too. 

    I think, like Nollie, that it is 'Eustacia Vye' which is a lovely rose and it would be a crime against horticulture to kill it.  If you contact DA with all your informaton and photographic record, and give them the name and address of the garden centre, I think they'll be able to advise you and possibly offer a replacement.  Certainly worth a try.  Best of luck.
    Thanks @[email protected]"Balgay.Hill" I will definitely contact DA with all my pictures and tell them what has happened.

    Many thanks 
  • SlipperyElmSlipperyElm Posts: 379
    Very pleased that you've decided to keep the rose 😀    It's a beauty and the scent IS tremendous.  It does get to quite a nice size, (  about 4' h x 3' w ) although not suitable for your 'rambling' purposes, but it will fill a big space somewhere in your garden, next year!
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