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AndreiaAndreia GaliciaPosts: 2
Could someone help me identify this rose? I would like to know what species it is and when and how should I prune it

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 7,105
    Well, it's a very pretty bloom, other than that I have next to nothing to go on, as there are any number of Old Fashioned Roses from the 19th C. that produce blooms like that...   it's important to show..
    Foliage - close ups
    Thorns - close ups
    indications of whether it flowers once or repeats its bloom through summer
    Whole bush shots, close up and distant
    Any other information that can be gleaned about it is always useful.. such as when was the photo taken?..

    However, saying all that, if it does repeat then I would hazard a guess that it's 'Jacques Cartier' aka 'Marchese Boccella' if you live in another country...  but please show me foliage including the terminal leaflet..

    Best left with minimal pruning, just dead head the spent blooms.. if a different rose that only flowers once in summer then prune after flowering... you certainly wouldn't want to be pruning it now..

  • AndreiaAndreia GaliciaPosts: 2
    Thank you for all that information!
    I took the pictures this week. I'm not sure if it has a second flowering so maybe the best is not to prune for now.
    The plant reaches 1'50 m height, 5 or 7 leaves, fragant flowers, ...

  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 7,105
    Ok, thanks for the extra photos - very good...

    I notice you are in Galicia, Spain, which makes it difficult for me as I do not know which roses are, or have been,  generally available to you there, but I can tell you your rose is not Jacques Cartier, but it is a Portland/Damask rose, and I believe it is either 'Joasine Hanet' or 'Amanda Paternotte'.. both grow 5 feet or more, and the foliage could indicate either but those thorns especially Joasine Hanet.. ''The armature on the basal canes consists of thin, tan, sickle-shaped, slightly down-turned prickles''

    ...either way, it should repeat flower for you, Spring and a few blooms maybe in summer, but if your climate is hot, you may not see any more until cooler Autumn..

    ..you can prune after the first flush, to keep it compact and manageable,  and cut out dead wood in winter... otherwise, it doesn't need that much attention..

    ..best wishes... 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 7,105
    A friend has given me a nudge to suggest the rose may be the Damask 'Ispahan', but I don't think the foliage is correct for that rose, even though the blooms are similar.. it also only blooms once, so you will have to study it and see for yourself with that..
  • edhelkaedhelka GwyneddPosts: 2,267
    I don't think it is Amande/Joasine, although my Amande is still very young so hard to compare. But I can take some photos tomorrow if it helps (young foliage, young shoots, buds, thorns).
    I also agree that the foliage isn't right for Ispahan.
    The height and growth habit confuses me, although I understand it grows in Spain so it probably grows bigger than it would grow here.
  • Cambridgerose12Cambridgerose12 Posts: 1,044
    Marlorena said:
    A friend has given me a nudge to suggest the rose may be the Damask 'Ispahan', but I don't think the foliage is correct for that rose, even though the blooms are similar.. it also only blooms once, so you will have to study it and see for yourself with that..
    You’re right, Marlorena, it’s not Ispahan which I grew for many years—that is paler and the flowers are less tidy. It reminds me a bit of Madame Isaac Pereire. But a whole bush shot would help.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 20,384
    It reminds me of Mme Isaac Pereire too, which I had in a past house, but I thought it was a climber.
    Dordogne and Norfolk
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