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welshcakewelshcake Posts: 107
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I had a large, really overgrown section of my garden which included a number of trees that were completely engulfed by brambles and some that were dead.  A tree surgeon cut them back for me and must have missed putting plugs in one.

I've noticed some sprouts have come out of the stump and wanted to check if this is just it growing back (in which case I'll leave it to it's own devices) or something to be concerned about that I need to address? 

If I can just leave it to continue to grow, anyone have any idea what it is?

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  • K67K67 Posts: 2,507
    This will bump you up but I've no idea what the tree is, maybe an elder, sonething pretty tough.
    I would just get rid of them as they appear as they are not going to make a nice shaped tree  
  • welshcakewelshcake Posts: 107
    K67 said:
    This will bump you up but I've no idea what the tree is, maybe an elder, sonething pretty tough.
    I would just get rid of them as they appear as they are not going to make a nice shaped tree  
    Thanks K67.  Good guess on what it is.  I'm trying to think back what was there before and am pretty sure there was an elder.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 84,027
    Just rub those new shoots out. The stump will die. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • rachelQrtJHBjbrachelQrtJHBjb Posts: 819
    Definitely an elder. Looks like the foliage is dark - was it 'Black Lace', also known as 'Eva'? You could take the chance and see what develops over the summer. After all, you can always cut it down and next spring do as @Dovefromabove suggests and rub out all shoots as they sprout.

    Sounds as though you had to cut everything due to the brambles and you might appreciate having something regenerate?
  • NorthernJoeNorthernJoe Posts: 660
    Will elder coppice ok? If so perhaps you've got the beginnings of some rods for your garden. If it's out of the way perhaps leave it and coppice? Nice home grown rods for runner bean canes, sweet pea frame, etc.

    We're lucky in that we have an upper, wildlife garden away from the formal bit. It's got two or three trees that look coppiced and are well on their way to harvest time. Ready now for plant support duties but I'm thinking of leaving to make walking poles and sticks for interest and other things which need thicker rods.
  • welshcakewelshcake Posts: 107
    rachelQrtJHBjb said:
    Definitely an elder. Looks like the foliage is dark - was it 'Black Lace', also known as 'Eva'? You could take the chance and see what develops over the summer. After all, you can always cut it down and next spring do as @Dovefromabove suggests and rub out all shoots as they sprout.

    Sounds as though you had to cut everything due to the brambles and you might appreciate having something regenerate?
    Thanks Rachel.  I'm not sure what type of elder it was - I really wasn't into gardening at until recently.  I just remember that at the front, I could see white flowers that looked like elder poking through all the overgrowth.    

    Yes you are absolutely right about me appreciating having something regenerate.  To be honest, I think I was too hasty having everything cut back and if this one has survived, I'm happy to give it chance to see what develops and if not, follow the advice from @[email protected]
  • welshcakewelshcake Posts: 107
    Dovefromabove said:
    Just rub those new shoots out. The stump will die. 

    Thanks very much.  As per my reply to Rachel, I'm going to give it some time and see what develops.  It's in an area that I'm making very wildlife friendly (since I took away all that overgrown habitat from them in the first place!!) so it's not a problem to leave it looking a bit untidy while I wait out some time to see what grows.  If it isn't going to work, I'll rub out the new shoots as you've suggested
  • welshcakewelshcake Posts: 107
    NorthernJoe said:
    Will elder coppice ok? If so perhaps you've got the beginnings of some rods for your garden. If it's out of the way perhaps leave it and coppice? Nice home grown rods for runner bean canes, sweet pea frame, etc.

    We're lucky in that we have an upper, wildlife garden away from the formal bit. It's got two or three trees that look coppiced and are well on their way to harvest time. Ready now for plant support duties but I'm thinking of leaving to make walking poles and sticks for interest and other things which need thicker rods.
    I'm not sure about it being able to coppice - I'm really a beginner gardener.  Definitely worth thinking about if it doesn't grow into something nice.  It's in an area that I'm making very wildlife friendly so it's not formal and I could leave it to make rods if needed.  I'm hoping it may grow back into something after my regrets about having it all chopped down in haste!
  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,409
    It will coppice ok insofar as you can cut it down and it will regrow, but I'm not sure how useful the rods would be. Elder wood tends to be quite brittle I find, so might not be very serviceable. It would also  try to root if not completely dried!
  • NorthernJoeNorthernJoe Posts: 660
    How about waiting until one is a nice size but not branching out or too leafy then cutting and sticking into the ground somewhere else that's good for it to grow in? Then try and stop this stump regrowing once the stick has taken and is growing well.

    Obviously willow is the best for this and I've seen a really nice little tree develop from just a cut stick in the ground.
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