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Mark-EMark-E Pontypridd, WalesPosts: 173
Hi all,

I was hoping someone could help me identify if the below are weeds.

Thanks, Mark



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  • D0rdogne_DamselD0rdogne_Damsel Saint Yrieix La Perche, Haute Vienne/Dordogne border. FrancePosts: 3,726
    I think the first ones are Forget-me-Nots (Myosotis), they do spread/self seed, but I think they're very pretty and easy to remove if you don't like them ot they start to take over. 

    No idea on the 2nd one. 

    I could equally be completely wrong on the 1st one, an expert will be along shortly I am sure. :)
    "To nurture a garden is to feed not just the body, but the soul." — Alfred Austin
  • Loraine3Loraine3 Posts: 514
    Top is Forget me not. Will self seed if left. Lovely plant in the right place!

    don't know lower one
  • Mark-EMark-E Pontypridd, WalesPosts: 173
    Thanks both,  probably hard to tell the second one until its in flower I guess.
  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Leicestershire, UKPosts: 11,336
    The second one may be an Echinops seedling.
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • JennyJJennyJ DoncasterPosts: 6,092
    The second one also looks similar to the seedlings of cardoon (Cynara cardunculatus) that pop up from time to time in my garden. Could be that, or Echnops, or something else entirely. Too soon to be sure though. Do you (or a neighbour) have Cynara or Echinops that could have set seed? Or anything else with silvery hairy foliage?
  • Forget-me-nots will continue flowering for a long time but do start to get a bit scraggly as the initial flowers go to seed. They will get everywhere (into the lawn, footpaths, patios) so if you want to avoid this pull out.  But I think they look really nice so I left most of mine in last year and this year.  You can also move them fairly easily though they do take a little while to re-establish.
  • Mark-EMark-E Pontypridd, WalesPosts: 173
    Thanks all.

    @JennyJ I think I did sow some Echinops at some point in that border.  Are they invasive when they flower and set seed?

    @Winchester_flare I guess I will leave the forget-me-not this year and see how bad it seeds around.
  • raisingirlraisingirl East Devon, on the Edge of Exmoor.Posts: 5,547
    Mark-E said:

    @JennyJ I think I did sow some Echinops at some point in that border.  Are they invasive when they flower and set seed?

    Not in my experience
    “Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first” 
  • didywdidyw East SuffolkPosts: 1,717
    edited April 2021
    Mark-E said:
    Thanks all.

    I think I did sow some Echinops at some point in that border.  Are they invasive when they flower and set seed?


    I have had an Echinops ritro for many years which spreads (which means it can be dug up and divided) and although it is supposed to self-seed I've never seen any seedlings near it.  But deadheading would prevent any spread by seeds.  I love my plant - it came from my mother's garden after she died so it is rather special to me.  The leaves are a lot more jagged than those in your pic but then I've not seen an echinops seedling so maybe the young leaves are smoother. 
  • LynLyn DevonPosts: 19,891
    I’ve been trying to get rid of Echinops for a few years, there’s always a few coming up and the original plants need a pickaxe. 
    The seedling does look like one.  You’ll soon see because it will become serrated. Lovely for the bees though.
    On the other hand, it could just be some dandelion type weed. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

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