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Pauly3Pauly3 Posts: 17
Hi all, for my day job I sell antiques and like to be accurate when describing things. I have these victorian wall lights with some stylised leaves and a flower.

any ideas what they might be ? something irresistible to (red enamel) butterflies?

cheers all Paul

(I would have gone made this last year without my garden to potter in)


  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 18,501
    The flower is a Tudor Rose. The white, usually 5 petals inside are white, representing the House of York and the outside red petals, should also be 5, represent the House of Lancaster. The leaves are ivy.
    Dordogne and Norfolk
  • PerkiPerki Rossendale - LancashirePosts: 2,184
    The leaves look like Ivy the flower a Rose and butterfly's in the background. 
  • SlipperyElmSlipperyElm Posts: 354
    Bastardised tudor rose.  The genuine one would only have 5 petals on each 'row' of petals, white representing the Yorkist line, red for the Lancastrians.  This has 6.
    Definitely ivy leaves.  In the Victorian language of flowers  ivy represented perennial life, eternity and wedded union.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 77,484
    edited March 2021
    I agree ... an
    emblematic Tudor rose surrounded by stylised Ivy leaves ... sort of Art Nouveau -ish. 
    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh

  • Pauly3Pauly3 Posts: 17
    fab thanks all. it was the foliage I was stuck on, I can now see it's quite obviously ivy.

    I'll describe as 'three butterflies circling a single stylised rose in front of Ivy foliage'

    flowery language to describe a flower.


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