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FfoxgloveFfoxglove UkPosts: 516
Hello! I’m after more advice sorry! Everyone’s just been so helpful ok here, it’s great. 
I’d like a repeating rambling / climbing rose to fill this fence space and cover the ugly pillar.  It’s a north facing wall so a rose happy in shade - if it exists. 
I’d prefer a lighter colour to brighten up the area if possible. I’ve heard buff beauty copes but it’s technically not a climber. All my roses are in more sunny spots so I was hoping for a recommendation from someone with a Rose in a similar position. 
Thank you! 


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  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,630
    Mme Alfred Carrière is often recommended for a north facing fence or wall.  Creamy flowers https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/99741/rosa-madame-alfred-carri-232-re-(n)/Details and I've seen Golden Showers recommended on GW but haven't grown it myself.

    DA roses recommend a few climbing and rambling roses for north facing walls - https://eu.davidaustinroses.com/collections/ideal-for-climbers-for-north-facing-walls.  Not all are repeaters tho so check.

    I have grown The Generous Gardener which has pale, peachy pink flowers over a long season and I have planted The Pilgrim (yellow) against a north facing wall here but only recently so can't say how it does yet.


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  • FfoxgloveFfoxglove UkPosts: 516
    Thanks @Fire. Do you grow? 
    I’ve a discount code too for David Austin... sounds nice! It’s light yellow right? 
  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,630
    I grew it in my last garden - full sun - but it really didn't like the cold winters.   here I planted one, again in full sun, and it is growing very strongly but the flowers do fade to cream quite quickly.

    It is not on the list of roses DA recommend for a north facing wall so may be better on an east or west facing wall.
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  • FfoxgloveFfoxglove UkPosts: 516
    edited March 2021
    Thanks @Obelixx I don’t think the winters in South Wales are too bad and I like cream fine.  But if it’s not recommended for a north wall. 
    I’m not a fan of the harsher yellow of golden showers. Mdme Alfred carriere seems lush but I’m worried it’s too big. 
    I’ve always fancied generous gardener and never grown it... maybe now is the time. 


  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,630
    See my earlier post.
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  • FfoxgloveFfoxglove UkPosts: 516
    Apologies @Obelixx I didn’t see it! Seen it now! 
    Alfred carriere or generous Gardner....which to choose
  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,630
    What else will you plant along that fence?  The colour of the rose will dictate what looks good to tone or contrast with it.

    At the risk of setting the cat amongst the pigeons, have you considered clematis?  There's plenty that would be happy there given decent soil preparation.  The viticella group is reliable, not prone to disease and is easy to prune being a group 3.

    Betty Corning and Hagelby Pink are nice and pale and Pagoda is two tone.  They have nodding, bell like flowers rather than the bigger flowered varieties but if you like those, have a look at Perle d'Azur or, if you like yellow, have a look at Bill McKenzie  
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  • FireFire LondonPosts: 14,174

    MH is listed here on DA for north facing and for shady areas. It's large, light (as requested) and good for bees.
    There is extensive discussion of it on the rose thread. I have one just in. I think @Obelixx's garden had hard winters and wasn't in the UK. 

  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,630
    MH is a lovely rose and yes, my Belgian garden had very hard winters with -20C being normal for a couple of weeks each winter and regular beasts from Siberia.

    I see that the DA site's page for MH says it's good for any aspect but their page of climbers and ramblers for north facing walls and fences doesn't mention it.   I should think it's worth a try tho.
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