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Rosa Christopher

My grandson, Christopher, died suddenly recently aged 15 years. There is a Rose called Christopher which I would dearly like to have. According to the RHS plant finder the only nursery stocking this rose is Springreach Nursery. I have contacted them by email without success so will telephone. However, if anyone has any information about another nursery who  may stock this rose I would be delighted to hear of it.

Thanks
Charlotte 
Edinburgh 
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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,288
    I'm so saddened to read your news Charlotte.

    David Austin sells this beautiful rose called Chris
    https://www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/products/chris

    My condolences

    Billericay - Essex

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  • Pete

    Many thanks for your prompt reply. I know about the Rose Chris but it is a climber and is not really suitable. However, I will keep it in mind if I cannot obtain Christopher.

    Charlotte

  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,288
    edited February 2021
    Hi Charlotte
    I followed the RHS link and had a look at the roses sold by Springreach Nursery, they only appear to sell Rosa Chris. I can't find a rose called Christopher anywhere - sorry.
    The closest I could fine is rosa Christopher Marlowe-
    https://www.davidaustinroses.com/products/christopher-marlowe

    list of roses from Springreach Nurseries-
    http://www.springreachnursery.co.uk/plant_list.html#R
    • Rosa 'Best Wishes'
    • Rosa 'Blanche Double de Coubert'
    • Rosa 'Boule de Neige'
    • Rosa 'Bride'
    • Rosa 'Buff Beauty' AGM
    • Rosa 'Blessings' (HT)'
    • Rosa 'Caring for You'
    • Rosa 'Cardinal de Richelieu' AGM
    • Rosa 'Carol'
    • Rosa 'Cecile Brunner' AGM
    • Rosa 'Champagne Moments'
    • Rosa 'Cheerful Charlie'
    • Rosa 'Chris'
    • Rosa 'Claire Rose'
    • Rosa 'Cleo'
    • Rosa 'Cliff Richard'
    • Rosa 'Climbing Home Sweet Home'
    • Rosa 'Climbing Iceberg' AGM
    • Rosa 'Climbing Rose Ruby Wedding'
    • Rosa 'Charlotte'
    • Rosa 'Compassion'
    • Rosa 'Cottage Rose'
    • Rosa 'Congratulations'
    • Rosa 'Crazy for You'
    • Rosa 'Debs Delight'
    • Rosa 'Diamond (Patio)'
    I wonder if @Marlorena may be able to help?



    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Yes I noticed this as well. The RHS plantfinder lists Springreach as a supplier but I am not sure how up to date the plantfinder list is.  I plan to phone Springreach to ask them. I note from  another website that Rose Christopher was created by Anne Crocker.  We have Crocker Nurseries in Aberdeenshire and I also plan to phone them as well. I have used them in the past but nowadays they ask for a minimum order of 10 roses which is not particularly helpful to individual gardeners unless you are planting a new bed of roses!

    Thanks once again for your help.

    Charlotte 
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,288
    edited February 2021
    I do hope you manage to find a suitable rose Charlotte.
    I tagged Marlorena so hopefully she will respond - she is our forum rose expert
    Pete

    Billericay - Essex

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    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,629
    @charlottet1234P8VO-YQk

    ..hello.. I'm so sorry about your loss, always sad to hear..

    ..I fear you may not be able to obtain the rose you are looking for as I suspect it's long since been discontinued in the UK, but as you have found, it was bred by the Cockers of Aberdeenshire, so it might be worth contacting them to see if they still have a plant in their gardens from which they could propagate for you, but in  my experience, I would not be too hopeful of that..

    ..Roses like these unfortunately go out of commerce, never to be seen again... I have checked with the British Bred Rose collections held by Robert Mattock at Evenley Wood and Lord Heseltine's garden at Thenford, as they both share the collection, but 'Christopher' is not amongst them... so I can only advise that, if Cockers cannot help, then maybe look elsewhere for another type of plant that might bear the name..

    ..very best wishes...

    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,629
    ..may I recommend this rose to you instead?..

    https://www.styleroses.co.uk/buy-plants/precious-grandson-rose

    ...the breeder, Ronnie Rawlins, is very good, I have tried several of his roses, and have them in my garden...
    East Anglia, England
  • Marlorena

    Many thanks for taking the time to reply to  my post. This is very helpful but I will still phone Cockers to ask for their advice.  If not there is still the climber, Chris. I can find a space for this in my garden but it would not be suitable for my son and I would have liked to have been able to give one to his parents.

    Charlotte
  • As a postscript I see from another website that the rose Chris can be grown as a bush rose if "pruned judiciously".   I have had roses for over 50 years and know how to prune them but is there a particular way to prune a climber to ensure it grows as a bush rose?  I also see that this rose was named for someone called Chris who died of Heart Disease like our grandson and a donation is made to coronary charities which would be really suitable for us. 

    Charlotte 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,511
    Charlotte, I’m so sorry for your loss. Another option to remember your grandson is to have a rose named after him. Several rose breeders offer this service, such as:

    https://www.countrygardenroses.co.uk/shop/31-Name-Your-Own-Rose/

    https://www.dickson-roses.co.uk/rose-naming-opportunities


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