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I am trying to identify the plants on the left of the picture. The first with white spikes looks like Actea Simplex (Black Negligee) but it is the third, the large bunch of darkish red (?) behind the blue that I am really after.  Any ideas  Thankshttpscdngardenistacomwp-contentuploads201511oudolf-hummelo-gardenosta-p300jpg


  • This is part of  the Trentham Estate Gardens in Stoke on Trent designed by Piet Oudolf  (  'Rivers of Grass' and 'Floral Labyrinth' ) .  You could try contacting them and perhaps they can help with your search 😀
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 77,307
    Cant see it very clearly but I’m wondering if it’s one of the dark leaved Eupatoriums. 🤔 
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  • Victoria SpongeVictoria Sponge WearsidePosts: 3,311
    I agree with Eupatorium, same on the front right for a close up.

    What a beautiful clump of persicaria too. Looks amazing.
  • rachelQrtJHBjbrachelQrtJHBjb South BucksPosts: 805
    I agree with the others that it's eupatorium. If you like the height and structure it affords you may also be interested in a tall prairie plant called Vernonia, which I grow alongside Helianthus 'Lemon Queen'.
  • Thanks for the information. I have looked up Eupatorium and the closest seems to be Maculatum. I am now looking for some grasses to go with it and the Actea Simplex.  Tufted hair grass has been suggested.

    Thanks for the suggestion of Veronica.

    I am usually a fairly boring gardener going for masses of flowers. But after seeing the Piet Oudolf pictures I am beginning to realise the more plant crowded together the less you actually see. Hence new plants and need for grasses that go with the plant. I havent got the hang of it yet. 
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