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gardenman91gardenman91 BrightonPosts: 429
Good evening everyone, I’m wondering if anyone can help me identify these plants please? I believe one is cornus and another is helleborus but I’m not sure what the species is 🤔

Many thanks :smile:


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  • 1. Euonymus.   Maybe Euonymus fortunei.
    2. Helleborus.   Maybe Helleborus argutifolius
    3. Cornus sp....would like to see what flowers /fruits are like
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • RubytooRubytoo On the sofa, Southerly aspect.Posts: 1,287

    Your hellebore looks rather like our Helleborus
    lividus subsp. corsicus
    Helleborus corsicus.
    Argutifolius is close too.
    I cannot be sure. I think argutifolius is a slightly narrower leaf shape and much taller in stature.
    Our one looks like yours and is shorter, by a fair amount.  Ours is a foot tall  but we garden under large oaks which may stunt growth. The plant as awhole looks chunkier. and paler.
     
    I may be wrong. But if you check both you may find the correct one.
  • Rubytoo said:

    Your hellebore looks rather like our Helleborus
    lividus subsp. corsicus
    Helleborus corsicus.
    Argutifolius is close too.
    I cannot be sure. I think argutifolius is a slightly narrower leaf shape and much taller in stature.
    Our one looks like yours and is shorter, by a fair amount.  Ours is a foot tall  but we garden under large oaks which may stunt growth. The plant as awhole looks chunkier. and paler.
     
    I may be wrong. But if you check both you may find the correct one.
    Helleborus argutifolius syn Helleborus lividus subsp. corsicus 

    They are the same plant.


     https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/8565/Helleborus-argutifolius/Details
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • gardenman91gardenman91 BrightonPosts: 429
    1. Euonymus.   Maybe Euonymus fortunei.
    2. Helleborus.   Maybe Helleborus argutifolius
    3. Cornus sp....would like to see what flowers /fruits are like
    With regards to the cornus, it has either self seeded as a few more plants have popped up. But for the small size of the top growth the root seems to be very thick so I’m thinking it’s a rhizomotous dogwood? 
  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Leicestershire, UKPosts: 11,336
    Some cornus spread by suckering, so probably one of those.  Old thread here:

    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Sheffield, Derbyshire border.Posts: 11,267
    Agree with @Silver surfer
    Helleborus argutifolius syn Helleborus lividus subsp. corsicus  are the same plant.



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  • gardenman91gardenman91 BrightonPosts: 429
    Lovely thanks for the information everyone. I’ll take some photos of the cornus when it’s in flower. Who’s ready for some more plant photos haha. 


  • B3B3 Posts: 21,468
    Top one looks like some kind of ivy
    Middle - bay 
    Bottom laurel - maybe
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • gardenman91gardenman91 BrightonPosts: 429
    B3 said:
    Top one looks like some kind of ivy
    Middle - bay 
    Bottom laurel - maybe
    Thanks B3, I forgot to mention that the top photo is in photo 3 as well, it is also a tree but is behind the potential laurel 
  • B3B3 Posts: 21,468
    That looks like the kind of place you'd find ivy😊
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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