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Clematis, or clematis alternative, recommendation

BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,671
I am having a stone wall built in the garden, replacing a fence 6’ by 30’, and I am looking for recommendations about which clematises I might grow. I would be very happy to receive recommendations of alternative plants as well.

The relevant details:
1. 6’ x 30’
2. Faces SW
3. Rich loam soil, pH 7.0
4. The wall is a pale golden colour
5. Prefer deciduous to evergreen (it’s damn expensive so I want to see the stonework for some months of the year!) The plant(s) do not need to cover the full extent of the wall.
6. Want a plant that will not bush out too far from the wall. This is likely to preclude lots of roses.
7. Would like flowers in the summer months much more than the other three seasons.
8. Scent is not an important consideration.
9. The colour of the flowers is not a major concern but the plants on the wall would have to be in harmony with one another.
10. I live in Rutland where the climate is reasonably placid by UK standards. It is not overly windy.

I would be delighted to hear recommendations.

Rutland, England


  • FireFire Posts: 18,937
    This is my solanum pondering week - purple or white.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,754
    edited October 2020
    Loads of clematis - some of the early ones like alpinas and macropetalas would be good as they like a drier site which you'd probably have against a wall, but as you want summer flowering, there are loads to choose from. 
    A few of the viticellas would look good, or one of the earlier flowering types, which continue until early autumn, added into the mix. Etoile Violette is always a good performer, as is Rouge Cardinal, but there are hundreds of others. I've just bought one called Meghan which is lovely. Planted recently, and will cover this section of fence

    Just browse the sepcialiste though - Taylor's, Thorncroft and Hawthornes. I've also had very good plants from Peter Beales. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....

    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • KeenOnGreenKeenOnGreen Posts: 1,831
    We use to grow Sollya heterophylla (Bluebell Creeper) in our previous garden.  You usually see the blue variety in garden centres, but we also had a pink one too.  They are not fully hardy, so after surviving for years, we lost both to a hard Winter.  If you can offer some protection, they make a nice alternative/companion to Clematis.  Not the best photo...

  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,681
    edited October 2020
    Agree re Viticellas and other type 3s - especially the Texensis and Flammula groups. All these can be hacked down to the ground in winter and therefore will not result in a tangle of foliage leaning out from the wall. I like "Etoile Violette" (Viticella), and "Etoile Rose" (Texensis). "Sweet Summer Love" (Flammula group) looks really good, despite the cheesy name.
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,374
    I'm deeply envious of such a wall, it will look lovely once built. I think I'd go more for the early summer flowering Class 2 clematis, Nelly Moser, Blue Ice (or Ice Blue?)  Prince Charles, Dr. Ruppel, or Crystal Fountain from personal experience. You sometimes get a second flush in September with these. Polish Spirit, a viticella, a deep purple flowering from July, is quite vigorous here but can be cut right down in the autumn. 
    You could also try one of the newer shorter climbing roses which could be trained to fan out over the wall.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
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