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Walking through the churchyard this morning I saw the two apple trees have dropped most of their apples now. The trees have got to be 100+ years old and easily 30ft x 20ft. The apples every year are left to rot, and then mown by the groundkeepers. The apples are small, bright scarlet and easily bruised, but I looked around, found a larger than average unblemished one and had a bite.

!! Incredibly sweet, really appley, pink flesh. BEST APPLE EVER

How do I grow this variety for my garden?



I did grab some more windfalls, looking guiltily over my shoulder, it feels like apple stealing. Can I grow from the pips, do the pips need chilling, will growing from the pips produce the same as the mother tree, or do I really need cuttings?

Gulp, I'm willing to snarf a couple of unwanted apples, but cuttings would require talking to the church management people.

And isn't pink flesh one of those newly introduced apple variety 'unique selling point's? Not such a terribly new variation after all.  

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  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Scariff, County Clare, IrelandPosts: 6,988
    You can grow pips from your apples but they are unlikely to produce the same apples as the snaffled ones...  apple varieties are budded or grafted onto a rootstock so you get fruit earlier, and to control the size and health of the tree.  You could try growing a cutting or two though, if you can sweet-talk the trees' owners.  Hardwood cuttings taken in winter might root, if you're lucky...  as for the pink flesh, a good "Discovery" apple - not a new variety - has a pink flush to it.  There are probably others, too.   :)
    "The one who plants trees, knowing that he will never sit in their shade, has at least started to understand the meaning of life."  Rabindranath Tagore
  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 18,625
    There are lots of varieties with tinted flesh. Some are crimson, even in the wood, and some just have a slight flush as if they are a bit emotional. They all originated with one parent called Malus Niedzweckyana, it is believed.

    However, as Liri says, your pip could turn out to be anything. You could end up with Mr Universe or you could end up with Michael Gove.
    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
  • seacrowsseacrows Posts: 156
    edited September 2020
    I've been looking around the internet, the consensus seems to be the older the tree, the less likely cuttings are to root. Still, there's no harm in trying. For my best chance I need a 'dormant' tree, so I'll give it a bit longer, at least until all the apples have fallen before advancing with the snippers.

    The pip will be at least 50% of the parent characteristics/genes, so worth trying. I might be lucky and the tree is self-fertile, so a pip would be very similar to the parent. Can only hope.

    Thanks for the replys.
  • floraliesfloralies Haute-Garonne SW FrancePosts: 1,355
    You can send samples off for identification, I have sent you a link I hope it helps!

    https://www.brogdalecollections.org/fruit-identification/
  • I think you realize this anyway, but it's probably going to be easier/better to just buy a grafted, growing tree that has the characteristics you want. It's going to take years before you get a tree from pip anywhere near big enough to get fruit from, and when the fruit appears there's no guarantee it will be decent, let alone a copy of the original. And Sod's Law means you'll probably end up with the height genetics from the graft and the fruit genetics from the root stock, leaving you with a 50 foot tree that gives 1 apple  :D

    But if you want to do it as an experiment, good luck!
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