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What to do with early summer cuttings now?

If they haven’t flowered yet but are still small, do you grow them on in pots over winter in spring or do you start popping them in ground?
i just don’t know if they will flower and grow as well in the ground or better continue in pots for the rest of the season. We still have 2 months potentially of ok weather.

The same with seeds that were grown a bit late. Rudibeckia is only a small plant maybe with a bud now. Is it best going in the ground? Will it come back if it dossbt produce flowers by now?


  • PosyPosy Posts: 3,601
    If they are very small, potting on is probably safer but if they are well grown and vigorous they should be fine in the soil. It also varies with local conditions. A mild, sheltered spot or a wind-ravaged frost pocket? It makes all the difference!
  • Thanks posy, I think the verbena b are a bit small. The rudibeckia I’m not sure so might pot that up - it’s from seed but not big.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 52,134
    Are they cuttings taken this year? 
    I doubt any of them would be big enough, and have a decent enough root system, to cope well over winter. That's only a few months since taking them. 
    Verb. bon are actually quite tough, but it would be better to keep them somewhere sheltered til next spring, and plant out then.
    Take any buds off the Rudbeckia, and just keep it ticking over too. They can be a bit hit and miss, in terms of hardiness, depending on variety, so it will depend on your location etc, and what kind of winters you get. You might want to keep that somewhere sheltered - against a house wall or similar if you don't have a cold frame etc.
    Pot on only when they're filling the pots they're in, and roots are showing out the bottom. 

    There's really nothing to gain from trying to plant things out too soon.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....

    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • FireFire Posts: 17,116
    I'm keeping mine in now and potting out after frosts.
  • I just checked and verbena b didn’t have roots yet, look healthy but obviously tiny so they’ll stay as they are. 

    Penstemon cuttings have rooted loads so two went into the border and one is staying in a pot.

    i repotted the rudibeckia so I guess I’ll try pinching off their buds and see. Others are already in the border so probably won’t make it unless I dig them back out?

    All these were started a couple of months ago from cuttings or seeds.
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 11,436
    If they're only a couple of months old, l would err on the side of caution and repot them. Keep them somewhere sheltered over winter as Fairygirl suggests, then plant them out next Spring. 
  • Thanks, I don’t know if the rudibeckia is an annual or perennial type but no harm trying them.
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