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Identify this wonderful rose ?

pjbwpjbw Posts: 4
We inherited this gorgeous rose when we moved in 1992. It must be 3-4 times its original size and has really taken off this year. I have added a close-up at bottom right with a bumblebee to indicate the size of the blossoms.

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  • BorderlineBorderline Posts: 4,688
    I’m afraid your second photo did not load. Very far away to know which rose. Bobbie James is another rose very similar. If you’ve seen any rose hips in the past it helps to remember the shape and colour. 
  • It's a collage...try to open the photo in a new tab and have a good look @Borderline thought the same initially.
    To Plant a Garden is to Believe in Tomorrow
  • BorderlineBorderline Posts: 4,688
    Oops I did not notice! Still not sure though.
  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,215
    edited June 2020
    Welcome to the forums.
    Would really help to see clear close up pics

    Your image from bottom right enlarged.

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    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,398
    ..looks like 'Rambling Rector' to me... it's important to see foliage too..  these are my own pictures of 'RR'...


    East Anglia, England
  • pjbwpjbw Posts: 4
    Welcome to the forums.
    Would really help to see clear close up pics

    Your image from bottom right enlarged.

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    That's the closest I could get with my 2005 camera. There is a clear little blossom up and to the left of the bumblebee. The feeling is that it is a Rambling Rose, but as you can see it is no way 'rambling'. Compact and slow-growing and without the double blossoms.

  • pjbwpjbw Posts: 4
    Marlorena said:
    ..looks like 'Rambling Rector' to me... it's important to see foliage too..  these are my own pictures of 'RR'...



    Marlorena said:
    ..looks like 'Rambling Rector' to me... it's important to see foliage too..  these are my own pictures of 'RR'...



    Yes, the leaves are similar but my flowers are much simpler; not 'double'. Also as you can see in my photo the bush is very compact, not 'rambling' at all though do I prune the very occasional stray branch.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,398
    It's always best to supply adequate photos plus as much information as you possibly can... so far the photos are distance shots which means we can only take a calculated guess and there are a number of roses that look like that, from a distance..
    Please supply close ups of the an individual flower, a flower cluster, mature and juvenile foliage, also indications of scent, thorns etc...
    All these things are imperative to obtain a better i.d.  without them, we are just guessing... it looks like this, or it looks like that, and so on..

    If adequate photos are supplied, then I could possibly look it up for you on a specialist site, as I'm a subscribed [paid up] member of that site which allows me to do those kinds of searches,.. but I do need much better, detailed pictures from you, I'm afraid..

    ...alternatively, if you can't do that, you might like to check out Trevor White Roses, under their rambling or specie roses sections, to see if the rose you have, and you are the only one so far who can see it clearly, is listed, as it is likely the rose came from them or Peter Beales originally...  I find T White has the better photos these days..
    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,398
    I've just switched on my mobile phone [ a rare thing] and I've been able to enlarge and zoom in somewhat... not as much as I would like.. and I note now, - should have noted earlier - that you've had this since 1992 at least, and it was slow growing.. so no way is that Rambling Rector as it would have taken over your whole garden by now..
    ...I can also see it's more of a very large shrub that's taken time to develop as you say.

    ...back in the 1980's/1990's this rose was offered by the main vendors, although it's not offered so much today..  it should have a good scent to it.
    ...do you think this might be it?..   
    https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.25322
    East Anglia, England
  • pjbwpjbw Posts: 4
    Thank you Marlorena,
    That's definitely it; the Pleine de Grace, with all thanks to Roger Willeghems. All the way from Belgium I think though my Flemish is non-existent.
    I was bit out with my date. My wife remembered that her aunt had a number of PdG's and gave her one in the 1990's. But it is certainly 20+ years old. Judith says that it still has the lovely scent though unfortunately I can't smell now ( pre Covid !). And the bees absolutely love it !
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