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DaffydillyDaffydilly North LancashirePosts: 78
As a fellow rose grower maybe you would advise on how you remove suckers?  I heel out because I always have done but am open to other ways. :)
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  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 6,399
    ...just yank it out... some roses are too thorny to mess with but if possible I would also remove a piece of the root from where it came.. it's easier if just below the graft, which may also be above ground level if the union was planted high..

    ...suckers should be a rare occurrence, I've had about 3 in 40 years... I suspect most 'suckers' that are removed from roses, are good shoots that are mistaken for suckers, judging by the number of threads about it during the summer..
    I have found them to be so rare that it's hardly worth discussing but I do not grow some of the known worst offenders, and I always check the rose before I plant it..

    ...if you have lots of roses, please consider sharing photos on the roses thread, I'm sure we'd all love to see them from your garden.. thank you...
  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,628
    'Scuse me butting in @Marlorena but I have a DA Geoff Hamilton in a very large tub and he produces suckers with gay abandon.   I first planted him, bare root, in the border in my Belgian garden but he struggled so I potted hm up to grow on.  He did very well but by then we were planning to move to France so he stayed in his pot. 

    The graft union is below soil level and the suckers come up in all directions.  I can't always pull them off as is advised so cut them.  The plant is fed each year and top dressed.   

    I've been planting up my new rose borders in the last few weeks but he will have to stay in his pot.  Can't be doing with suckers that are hard to get at.   Any ideas or is he a pot plant forever?
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  • DaffydillyDaffydilly North LancashirePosts: 78
    I also have had very few suckers over these latter years. Rose producers have improved since my early days  when suckers were more frequent.  I did post rose pictures last year so I will do so again.  Savoy Hotel is the pic I use on here but favourite is Papa Meilland and Chicago Peace.  Mainly because of memories ;)  as all roses are beautiful. I have only 14 now since we moved  back here.   Roses grew better where we lived before but they are still good and give pleasure to all, especially passers by as front garden is larger and gets more sun.

    My hubby who has poor eyesight enjoys yours roses, as do I, and I put your posts through my pc onto large tv screen so he can see them...so thanks for that, keep posting!
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  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 6,399
    @Daffydilly
    ....oh thanks so much, I'm delighted to hear your husband enjoys my roses on his t.v. screen...gosh.. that's so nice, I'm pleased that somebody gets something out of it... I wouldn't have been aware otherwise... so, thank you..  I used to love Papa Meilland, one of those most scented roses which unfortunately has a weak neck... but one can put up with that..

    @Obelixx
    ..no problem at all and you clearly have the patience of a saint... two things I would do there with your Geoff Hamilton.. I would remove it from pot in winter, bare root it completely, removing all compost, and cut out any roots that indicate where the suckers are coming from... they would be visible if you have partially removed suckers from them in the past... or if coming from just below the graft, the seeking out and removing any visible bud eyes...

    Alternatively, and my favoured advice, would be to get rid of the rose... I haven't the time or patience to put up with problematic roses or plants of any sort... and if that occurs with such regularity then it wouldn't remain with me long...

    ..that's the best I can do... 
  • DaffydillyDaffydilly North LancashirePosts: 78
    Obelixx..
    I do agree with Marlorena but if you want to keep the rose there would be no harm in replanting it in the garden if you have room...  plant deeper this time and do so in  dormancy.  Cut it back to a third and plant in soil (a little trick I use is to scrunch up newspaper and soak it bottom of hole first) then plant and cross fingers.  You can uncross them when leaves appear next year!  Alternatively you could replace it.  I quite like a challenge so I would keep and `experiment'  

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  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,628
    Thanks both.  It is already planted deep and I've never had problems with suckers on other DA roses but I shall try the bare root thing come autumn and see how it goes.

    My recent purchases for my new rose garden are not DA roses as I've decided that this whole 3 years to get going business and then maybe not liking the heat here is just too much faff.   The new ones are Annapurna, Acapulco, Scentimental, Rosier de Cornuaille and Pascal Sevran.   I've been given a Traviata and the others are all DAs, mostly planted last autumn and OK so far.

    It'll be interesting to see how they all get on over the summer.
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  • DaffydillyDaffydilly North LancashirePosts: 78
    Good for you!   I buy from Apuldram roses...delivery is always made at the right time for planting and there are varieties you cannot buy at garden centres.
    Works for me ;)
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  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,628
    These new ones came from a rose nursery I've just found about 15kms from here.   I noodled round the website, found the colours and perfume I needed and then just turned up with a list of 3.   He had 2 of them left ready for sale and easily persuaded me to try 2 more.  Acapulco came from France Rurale who supply animal feeds and gardening stuff, mostly of the smallholding variety.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • DaffydillyDaffydilly North LancashirePosts: 78
    You are very lucky....no satisfactory rose nurseries near us so online is the only option but am happy with supplier.
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  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 6,399
    @Obelixx
    ...those are unusual roses that we cannot get here... I hope you will find the time to post pictures of your roses on the main thread, or elsewhere even, I would very much like to see them, and I expect some others would too...  thank you..
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