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Peter Beales Awakening rambler: how disease resistant is it?

KatsaKatsa Posts: 30
Hi all,

I'm looking to buy a pink rose for a south facing wall and my local garden centre has the PB in stock. I've looked online and it only has 'moderate' disease resistance so am a little wary. Does anyone grow this rose? How susceptible to black spot is it? We live in the Peak District so get a fair amount of rain. 

Could anyone recommend another repeat flowering, fragrant rambler that would be disease resistant?

Many thanks

Katsa

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  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 5,948
    Just bumping up your question, in the hope that a rose expert may be able to help  :)
  • edhelkaedhelka GwyneddPosts: 731
    I know we talked about this a bit in the rose thread but not much. I don't remember anyone here having it but maybe someone has and haven't mentioned it.
    For other recommendations, how big do you want it to be? Does it need to be a rambler or would a climber be OK too (I assume yes)? And I assume you want repeat flowering? Any preferred colour? Is the disease resistance your number 1 priority or would you be OK with some blackspot?
    I believe we have similar challenges (close to mountains, acidic/sandy/poor soil, wind and rain) and I would grow Awakening but I don't mind blackspot on climbers as much as on shrub roses, shrub roses are ugly when defoliated, climbers are usually less visible.
  • KatsaKatsa Posts: 30
    Hi @edhelka, thanks for your questions. I've answered them below: 

    The aim is to train the rose to cover a fence and provide colour/interested on an easy facing wall. Im not at all good at pruning so I thought a rambler would be easier to manage. 

    I definitely want a repeat flowering rose. I will be looking at the rose everyone I do the washing up!

    However the situation isn't that great. It's on an easy facing wall, close to the house. So it doesn't get that much sun. Our house is north/south facing and this rose would be planted on the north facing side. 

    I don't mind too much blackspot but would prefer excellent disease resistance. I'm still tempted by awakening, but if there's a better suited rose, do let me know. 

  • edhelkaedhelka GwyneddPosts: 731
    Thanks for the additional info.
    Both a climber and a rambler would need to be trained. Nothing too complicated, just tying it to horizontal wires or other support.
    The question of the size is what length of a wall do you need to cover. For example, Kiss me Kate, mentioned on the rose thread, is a small climber and would cover one fence panel or 2m of a wall but not much more. On the other hand, some vigorous roses would be able to cover 10m of a wall.
    The shade situation makes it more complicated. You may need to compromise a bit or take some risks (like less than excellent disease resistance, fragrance).
    'Awakening' is often recommended for a north-facing wall so it could be a good option. I read that it can ball in wet weather which can be another problem with many very double roses. Quite often, single and semi-double roses are better for shady and/or wet or otherwise challenging location. But it's a very pretty rose worth growing.
    I would recommend considering these:
    'The Generous Gardener' - 100% healthy in my garden and will tolerate some shade. Very fragrant.
    Hybrid musks - they are often shade tolerant and relatively easy to grow. 'Ghislaine de Feligonde' comes to mind but isn't fragrant. Some of the larger shrubs could be trained as climbers - 'Cornelia', 'Penelope', 'Prosperity' or 'Moonlight'. Or a modern hybrid musk - 'Guirlande d'Amour', which would probably be my personal choice.
    I would also consider noisettes. 'Blush Noisette' or if your space is big 'Aimeé Vibert' or 'Mme. Alfred Carriere'.
  • KatsaKatsa Posts: 30
    Thank you for your suggestions @edhelka.

    I like the sound of Penelope (mainly as our cat is also called Penelope) and Cornelia or Blush noisette look intriguing. I'm gong to have a browse and see what's available. Not much point going outside today as the weather is so rubbish.
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