I think they're hardier than given credit for! I also noticed quite a lot of self sown Echium down at Hinton Ampner in Hampshire. This is the same neighbour's garden that I asked about the Sophora shrub (to the left).
..oh best of luck with those... it's not my garden, [wish it was]... but one in my vicinity, so I don't know if they self seed there... if I see the owner I might ask... I do go by there sometimes..
...I see another one growing right outside somebody's front door here.. but we've had mild winters...
Being close to the house makes a huge difference doesn't it, I had a pot of Salvia Amistad by the back door that never lost it's leaves, while the ones down the bottom of the garden died right down.
They are far better if you let them self seed, they don’t like disturbance so potting on is not so good, also, they get toughened up to the weather. I leave them where they fall and usually only get two or three survive the winter .its a three year growing cycle for me.
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.
I planted seeds in pots past Spring, potted them on this year, hopefully will flower next year........just trying to figure out where to plant them in the garden later this year
Right at the back Mary, mine last year were 20’ tall. The one in flower now has curled itself around the garden then gone up to about 8’. They're monsters. Make sure you put it where you want it you may not get another chance to transplant it. Allow it lots of space it will be at least 2’ diameter if it survives the winter.
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.
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I ordered some seed of Echium candicans which I am going to give a try.
...I see another one growing right outside somebody's front door here.. but we've had mild winters...
Make sure you put it where you want it you may not get another chance to transplant it.
Allow it lots of space it will be at least 2’ diameter if it survives the winter.