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Plant identification Is this groundsel please?

Ruth150Ruth150 Posts: 41
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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 83,826
    edited May 2020
    Definitely not groundsel. 

    Can’t see the leaves clearly but I think it’s one of the many types of Hawkbeard ... Crepis family. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • tui34tui34 Posts: 2,853
    Dandelion?
    A good hoeing is worth two waterings.

  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,439
    Look to be 2 different plants.
    Pic 3 could be dandelion.
    Please add full size clear pics to show flowers and leaves.
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,391
    edited May 2020
    Possibly a yellow form of Fox-and-cubs, Pilosella aurantiaca, judging by some leaves in the 3rd pic.  Does look like several different plants.


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  • Ruth150Ruth150 Posts: 41
    The top two are definitely the same plant.  It was about 12 - 18 ins tall.  The last photo was taken at a different time but I thought it was the same.  There are so many plants that look very similar.  I'm trying to teach myself some of the more common plants in my garden and locality.  i will have a go at taking a better picture of the whole plant when I am next on a walk
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 83,826
    edited May 2020
    3 isn't Dandelion ... there are several blooms on one stem like a polyanthus. As I said ... Hawkbeard aka Hawk’sbeard. https://cambridgewildflowers.blogspot.com/2019/02/hawksbeards-crepis-capillaris-crepis.html?m=1

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,439
    edited May 2020
    Dovefromabove said:
    3 isn't Dandelion ... there are several blooms on one stem like a polyanthus. As I said ... Hawkbeard aka Hawk’sbeard. 
    I did try very hard to get a clear view.
    When I expand they all appear to me to be on separate stems...leaves definitely  look like Dandelion
    Which is why I asked for clearer images.


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    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • Ruth150Ruth150 Posts: 41
    I have done some google searching and I think that the plant's name is probably beaked hawk's-beard so that's what I am going for!  Thanks to everyone who has helped.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 83,826
    If you zoom-expand the pic it’s clear to me that the flower on the right is from the same main stem as the one just to the left and slightly lower. There is also another stem visible leading left from that main stem but I can’t see which of the several flowers it supports ... but there is definitely a cluster. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,439
    see above. for pic 3
    Maybe 1 and 2  are Sonchus arvensis.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Sonchus+arvensis&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiG0NzQxKnpAhXQUMAKHdyRDBAQ_AUoAXoECBkQAw&biw=1920&bih=938
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
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