Covid-19

Paul B3

I am finding it utterly incredulous that people are still being allowed to flit the globe via air or sea ; their apparently implacable desire for foreign holidays posing an increasing risk to everyone else . All travel abroad , unless absolutely necessary should be banned .

Personally I think that all suspected cases should be isolated until this is sorted out once and for all .

Daily in the UK new infections are being reported ; I have an appointment at Hull Royal Infirmary at the end of March (just under four-weeks) . At this rate I will probably cancel because by that time maybe a hospital is not the ideal place to be !

purplerallim

Actually @Paul B3 hospital might be the best place to be, as that's the one place the sick are not allowed to go! 🤔

wild edges

Nearly 4 million refugees in Turkey at the moment. I hate to think what will happen if it reaches places like that

pansyface

Ring a ring a roses           Describes the red spots, symptoms of the plague
A pocketful of posies        Sweet smells kept away sickness, they believed
Atishoo atishoo                 Sneezing signified that death would come soon
We all fall down                We all die

The nursery rhyme that dates back to the seventeenth century. 

Here in Derbyshire, I am just a few miles from the village of Eyam, (pronounced Eem), famous for having found itself host to the plague and  deciding to self isolate. They hung on for many months, dying by the dozen, wives digging graves for their husbands, funeral services held in the open air, money left in vinegar (a disinfectant) on the top of a hollowed out stone gate post (still there) at the top of a treeless hill, to be exchanged for food from other villages nearby.  Eventually, the epidemic died a death of its own.

The village is still geographically isolated and the same surnames still inhabit houses that their ancestors did. Some years ago a team of medical researchers took blood samples of descendants of plague survivors and found enough significant markers still there for them to invite the villagers to take part in an extended survey to do with immunity.

http://www.aboutderbyshire.co.uk/cms/11/sensational-aids-cure-fou.shtml



For those who don’t know the sad tale of the plague village, here is a brief summary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35064071

wild edges

It's Covid-19 by the way. Corvid-19 sounds more like bird flu

steephill

I am not sure that there is any way that this is something that can be "sorted out once and for all". We are still a long way from finding a vaccine for this viral disease which would in any case be a possible preventative measure not a cure.

We have a local outbreak which does not have a foreign travel aspect to it so banning travel wouldn't have stopped it. The disease had already spread internationally before being detected so travel bans are just barn doors slamming shut long after the horses have gone.

It is ironic that our town was used as the original infection source for the BBC Contagion programme. As a major dormitory town for London commuters anything which started here would already be spreading countrywide by the time it was detected.

Paul B3

wild edges said:

It's Covid-19 by the way. Corvid-19 sounds more like bird flu

My mistake !! I take it you're referring to Corvus , as in Crow ?

Obelixx

Spanish flu was actually a bird flu.  Covid-19 appears to have come thru contact with wild animals so isn't hugely different.

It will spread, or not, depending on how determined it is to adapt and procreate and also how determined and practical and pragmatic is our response to it.   Common sense about personal hygiene and non essential meetings with groups of people whose contact history is unknown will determine how it pans out. 

punkdoc

There is something rather ironic, in that the final animal vector in COVID 19 was Pangolins. They are an animal that the Chinese capture from Africa, as they believe in the power of its armour, which is just hair.
I think we can be certain things will get a lot worse. I have been asked to be part of a group of relevantly trained Drs. who have been asked to determine who should or should not get critical care if needed.
Due to my own health I have turned this down.

Obelixx

Pangolin revenge?   How sublime.

Chatting with Possum this evening and she sees all sorts of social media stuff I don't go near.  Apparently the conspiracy theorists are having a field day - Corona virus is an environmentalist plot.  It seems that the closure of Chinese factories following extreme government measures during this crisis have drastically reduced toxic climate change emissions in China.   Score for the greens then.

Got to love a good conspiracy theory.

KT53

Paul B3 said:

I am finding it utterly incredulous that people are still being allowed to flit the globe via air or sea ; their apparently implacable desire for foreign holidays posing an increasing risk to everyone else . All travel abroad , unless absolutely necessary should be banned .

Personally I think that all suspected cases should be isolated until this is sorted out once and for all .

Daily in the UK new infections are being reported ; I have an appointment at Hull Royal Infirmary at the end of March (just under four-weeks) . At this rate I will probably cancel because by that time maybe a hospital is not the ideal place to be !

Talk about "Stop the world I want to get off".  There are currently 36 cases in the whole of the UK with a population in excess of 60 million.  In round numbers that's 1 case for every 2 million of the population.  How would you propose to isolate everybody who has a raised temperature and a cough?  Even the experts state that for over 80% of the population the infection would have mild effect.  What does need to be stopped is the sensationalist and alarmist way the media is reporting it.