Scented Shrubs/Climbers for Deep Shade

Hi, I have a west facing wall that only gets about 2 hours of direct sun in the summer and zero in the winter. The top of the wall does get a fair bit more sun. It is quite sheltered with a shed a few feet away.
I have Lonicera japonica red world and Clematis Armandii in mind. Does anyone have any advice or experience on which would do better?


  • chris33.murphychris33.murphy Posts: 12
    edited 10 February
    Soil is a mixture or well rotted cow and horse manure, mushroom compost, existing clay soil and compost. The picture was taken in September.
  • bullfinchbullfinch SurreyPosts: 242
    Sorry, I can't answer your question, but I would like to say that you have a very pretty garden ! 🙂
  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 19,320
    Can't stay about that lonicera as I don't know it but clematis Armandii is too big for that space and I suspect most honeysuckles too.

    Have a look instead at smaller clematis such as Beauty of Worcester, Betty Corning, Hagley Hybrid, Moonlight, Niobe or Sundance  - fair amount of choice there for colour and flower form and they'll only grow to 3 or 4 metres so won't try and take over your world.  You can look them up on this site and then find a supplier online or locally. - 

    If you can screw a couple of horizontal battens to that bit of wall and then fix a suitable trellis panel to it it can look good even when the clematis has been pruned back to promote fresh flowering stems.
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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Billericay, EssexPosts: 4,986
    Cracking garden Chris - does you proud!
    Obelixx suggestion of Hagley Hybrid I think would work well.
    I had one under my north-facing porch that got almost no sun and it flowered really well for months on end
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  • Thanks so much for the kind comments. 

    I had an idea the C. armandii would be too much. 

    I like the look of all those Clematis, especially the Hagley Hybrid :smile:
  • I'd agree about the C armandii - the best one is C. a. Apple Blossom but it grows into a quite substantial plant and really prefers a South or South West site .
    C Hagley hybrid is a better choice as said above.
  • If you want a clematis in that corner to make a statement and to co-ordinate with plants in your superb border, have a look at herbaceous, bombproof, no vices, Josie's Midnight Blue.    
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