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  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Bath, SomersetPosts: 5,821
    Good news today is that Boris is bringing back student nurse's bursaries next year.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 26,165
    edited December 2019
    Lizzie27 said:
    Good news today is that Boris is bringing back student nurse's bursaries next year.
    Which government scrapped them?
    I'd  be happier if he did something about the 40,000 vacancies which currently exist .
    Just a thought
    Devon.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Bath, SomersetPosts: 5,821
    Cameron did - a wrong decision as it turned it out. Regarding the vacancies, according to the paper this morning, 8000 vacancies have been filled in the last six months but it of course does not say how many nurses let in the same period. 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 63,784
    edited December 2019
    Hmm Cameron made several decisions without thinking through all the possible repercussions ...  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjplZXgodhs

    Dot all the 'i's and cross all the 't's before announcing stuff  :/


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  • KT53KT53 Posts: 4,417
    Listening to a nurse in Northern Ireland this afternoon.  We think we have it bad in the rest of the UK but nothing compared to over there.  They have over 3000 nurse vacancies with a population under 2 million.  Waiting time for first consultant appointment averages over 4 years.  The billion pounds given to the assembly supposedly to get nurses pay up and other health service projects, was purloined for other purposes by their devolved government, but laws around the powers of Stormont (despite it not sitting) prevent UK government from sorting it (at present).
  • Lizzie27 you don't mention which paper reported that 8000 nurse vacancies had been filled...let me guess - Daily Mail, Daily Telegraph Daily Express, maybe ?  And did it say if the 8000 were new nurses or just nurses who might have left to return to their own countries but decided not to just at the moment so could be counted as new in the Government's way of presenting statistics ?  And as for your previous comment about charging £10 for GP and Outpatient appointments you might consider that many people can't even afford to feed themselves and their families so certainly could not afford the money which I, and possibly you, think of as just a small sum  And anyone else on here who has complained about poor service from the NHS and yet voted for the Conservatives in the last election then you might like to get your heads examined from one of the doctors in your local hospital - it will cost you nothing and might save your life.  
  • DingerDinger Nor FlondonPosts: 4
    I recently had a relatively minor operation under local anaesthetic.  A consultant did the cutting and a nurse did the post-op stitching.  I was flat on my back so didn't see any of the procedures.  Two days later the dressings were removed and I had quite a shock.  Stevie Wonder could have done a better stitching job and the wound is a right mess.  The consultant mentioned that they are training nurses to carry out minor surgical operations.  Gawd 'elp us.
    We hang petty thieves and appoint great ones to public office.  Aesop 620-560BC.
    Nothing changes.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 4,417
    Hopefully the announcements today regarding NHS funding will, over time, improve things.  It's not a magic wand and it will certainly take time for any difference to be seen.  It's also a political pledge and we all know the value of those.  Time will tell.
  • LynLyn DevonPosts: 16,480
    Didn’t the Queen in her speech say it was a law that they give this money.
    They're also restoring the bursary for nurses, we are now campaigning for it to be back dated to 2017 when it was scrapped. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • KT53KT53 Posts: 4,417
    Lyn said:
    Didn’t the Queen in her speech say it was a law that they give this money.
    They're also restoring the bursary for nurses, we are now campaigning for it to be back dated to 2017 when it was scrapped. 

    Yes the intention is to enshrine it in law which is obviously a good thing.  The sad part is that the Government clearly thinks the only way a promise is likely to be kept is if it is put into law.
    That's not a criticism of this Government, they have at least acknowledged there is a problem.
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