Just wondering-again

B3B3 Posts: 10,005
So many flowers have a snapdragon look about them: antirrhinum, toadflax, woundwort, nemesia varoius herbs etc etc.
Are they all related, or is it just a particularly efficient way of getting pollinated?
In London. Keen but lazy.
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  • Papi JoPapi Jo Brittany, France Posts: 2,000
    All those plants are members of the Scrophulariaceae family.
    You are invited to a virtual visit of my garden (in English or in French).
  • Paul B3Paul B3 Posts: 2,726

    Quite a number of commonly and uncommonly grown genera .

  • B3B3 Posts: 10,005
    edited 24 August
    Thanks @Papi Jo. I didn't knoe where to start looking😊 and @Paul B3
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 17,113
    Sounds like an unpleasant disease doesn't it?  Some wonderful plants in there tho and form a wide range of habitats so something for most gardens I'd have thought.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • B3B3 Posts: 10,005
    I find the connections between different plants fascinating -even though i don't understand all of it😕. But i think that knowing a little bit about  what family they belong to  can give clues to how to grow them.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 17,113
    Or you could just look up each one on this site or the RHS site..........
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • B3B3 Posts: 10,005
    Yes but its the family connections ( dont  know horticultural terms) that interest me. Where else would i get an answer to my snapdragon question in less than ten minutes? I wouldnt even know how to frame the question for Google  in order to get a useful answer.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 1,450
    edited 24 August
    B3 said:
    Yes but its the family connections ( dont  know horticultural terms) that interest me. Where else would i get an answer to my snapdragon question in less than ten minutes? I wouldnt even know how to frame the question for Google  in order to get a useful answer.
    Go to www.
    Type in snapdragon flower.
    Look for wiki.
    It will show it as Antirrhinum.

    To right side of screen is the Scientific details....the family.etc

    Scientific classificatione
    Kingdom:Plantae
    Clade:Angiosperms
    Clade:Eudicots
    Clade:Asterids
    Order:Lamiales
    Family:Plantaginaceae
    Tribe:Antirrhineae
    Genus:Antirrhinum
    L.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antirrhinum
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    Nemesia...

    Genus:
    Scientific classification e
    Kingdom: Plantae
    Clade: Angiosperms
    Clade: Eudicots
    Clade: Asterids
    Order: Lamiales
    Family: Scrophulariaceae
    Tribe: Hemimerideae
    Genus:
    Nemesia


    .............................................................................

    Linaria.......

    Scientific classification e
    Kingdom: Plantae
    Clade: Angiosperms
    Clade: Eudicots
    Clade: Asterids
    Order: Lamiales
    Family: Plantaginaceae
    Tribe: Antirrhineae
    Genus:
    Linaria

    ====================================

    If you then go to wiki and search Plantaginaceae you will find a list of plants that are in that family.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantaginaceae

    =====================================================
    Hope this helps.
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 13,561
    edited 24 August
    If you look closely at the shape of the flowers, it indicates what group they are in.   With compositae, they are all what you recognise as a daisy, a central disc of stamens with a lot of florets around it.   All those with a snap dragon shaped flower are related, but not close enough to cross pollinate.
    You don't stop doing new things because you get old, you get old because you stop doing new things. <3
  • B3B3 Posts: 10,005
    Thanks @Silver surfer & @fidgetbones vey intersting. So they do have families. I'm off to fi d out what a clade is.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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