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Help to identify 2 new arrivals

morning Everyone 

during a bit of a clean up yesterday I came across the two plants below. One has popped up in my pot of delphiniums which I cut back recently. It has grown very rapidly so I’m thinking possible weed. Bottom photo.

the second one is growing under a Rose bush and is very spindly, but possibly as it is struggling for space and light. First photo.

as always thanks for your ideas and counsel.
Marne la vallée, basically just outside Paris 🇫🇷, but definitely Scottish at heart.

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  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,286
    The top one looks like hemp.....possibly.
  • josusa47josusa47 Posts: 3,530
    I agree, it looks like Cannabis sativa, probably a seed from a bird feeder.

    The second has me baffled, that leaf shape with the terminal notch is quite unusual.  The tulip tree, Liriodendron tulipifera, is the only plant I know that has a terminal notch, but the overall leaf shape is not like your plant, more like the leaf of a London plane with the end cut off.  I do hope you find out!
  • Think its figwort Latin name unpronouncable bit thuggish self seeds everywhere insignificant flower although the bees love it bit takes up a bit of space biannual
  • Sorry that's the second one
  • Ok hemp from bird feeder is a real possibility.... I’ve been pulling up loads os stray plants from things the blue tits chucked out of the feeders! I’ll go look up 
    Marne la vallée, basically just outside Paris 🇫🇷, but definitely Scottish at heart.
  • The leaves of figwart seem more pointed and more slender, so don’t thing it’s that one. 
    Marne la vallée, basically just outside Paris 🇫🇷, but definitely Scottish at heart.
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