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OldmoondogOldmoondog Posts: 13
I have been growing this rose for about 5 years now and whilst it has a beautiful showing of multi-small roses in bunches each late spring, there is no other showing of roses at all.  I prune it quite hard each winter and it still produces masses of flowers, which when finished leave an awful mess of spent petals everywhere.  I have tried to find out what sort of EdeH does this but have been unable to find information.  I did expect it to produce flowers all summer so am a bit disappointed. Dead heading is a labour of love as there are hundreds of flowers in bunches.  Does anybody know it there is anything I can do or would it be best to just dig it up and put something in its place?


  • YviestevieYviestevie Posts: 7,040
    It's supposed to be a repeat climber.  I always have a gap about now when the first flush ends and the new growth hasn't produced any new buds.  Do you feed your roses?  I always give mine a slow release fertiliser in June to promote new growth.
    Hi from Kingswinford in the West Midlands
  • OldmoondogOldmoondog Posts: 13
    Thank you for your response. Yes I feed twice a year. But all I have now is a load of dead buds. There has never been a second growth!
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 83,842
    I think we need to know a bit more ... could we see a picture of the rose and it’s surroundings and a closer photo of the dead buds and foliage. 
    What sort of site and soil is it planted in?

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.

  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 11,166
    My EduH has large flowers more like hybrid teas, so big sometimes I have to tie individual heads to support them. It's getting stronger now it's 3-4 years old but is not in the best of locations. I don't get lots of small multi-headed flowers though so I do wonder if you've got the right rose?
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 83,842
    I was wondering that ... it sounds more like a rambler. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.

  • OldmoondogOldmoondog Posts: 13
    I ought to clarify. I DO get a second growth, but only branches which go really long but no flowers. Photo of dead heads, plant and and label attached.
  • Although the label shows the rose as EduH, I don't think it is. (Occasionally plants are wrongly labelled by a nursery) This is a photo of my plant. It's about 7 years old and has large, singe, very aromatic blooms. 
    Do you have a photo of your rose in flower so we may be able to help you identify it?
    A gardener's work is never at an end  - (John Evelyn 1620-1706)
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,852
    edited July 2019
    ..that's not Etoile de Hollande, sorry... what colour are those blooms and where did you buy it from please?...

    ...I'd say your rose is either 'Excelsa' or 'Super Excelsa' actually...
    East Anglia, England
  • OldmoondogOldmoondog Posts: 13 you are June 2018...!
  • Joy*Joy* Posts: 571
    edited July 2019
    It could be a rose called Violette but it's hard to tell from a distance. Are the flowers semi double? Whatever it is, it's very pretty. 
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