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Scraggy Dalilah's

BMLBML Posts: 146

The Dalia's I bought as corms turned out reasonably well but the ones I planted as seeds look tall and scraggy.  Is it possible to grow decent Dalilah's from seed? 


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  • B3B3 Posts: 21,419
    I think bishop dahlias are meant to be like that but bishops children are more compact and can be grown from seed.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Sheffield, Derbyshire border.Posts: 11,199
    That looks normal to me.
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  • BMLBML Posts: 146
    Thank you for your comments but I have to say that I'm disappointed.  That may be down to seeing some superb examples in a garden near me.  I will have to knock on their door and ask about them with questions such as should they be fed. 
  • PosyPosy Isle of Wight.Posts: 3,201
    I think the pot is much too small and some of the leaves look pale: are there two plants? If not it may need more light. Did you pinch out the growing points to make it bush up when it was smaller?
    I believe the best thing would be to plant it out o r into a big container and remove the flowers, cutting it back to a better shape. It will soon flower again, more vigorously. Give it full sun and lots of water.
  • LynLyn DevonPosts: 19,863
    I agree with Posy, pots much too small, when you look at the end of the year, you’re seeded ones will have made tubers ready for next year. 
    Keep cutting the flowers off as soon as they look a bit tatty. 
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  • JennyJJennyJ DoncasterPosts: 6,053
    edited July 2019
    Seed raised dahlias will bulk up in time.   Here are a couple of my Bishop's Children seed-raised dahlias.  The red one is about 3 feet tall and the yellow about 5 feet (to the tallest flowers).  They're about 5 or 6 years old.
      
  • BMLBML Posts: 146
    Posy said:
    I think the pot is much too small and some of the leaves look pale: are there two plants? If not it may need more light. Did you pinch out the growing points to make it bush up when it was smaller?
    I believe the best thing would be to plant it out o r into a big container and remove the flowers, cutting it back to a better shape. It will soon flower again, more vigorously. Give it full sun and lots of water.
    Firstly I made the mistake a few years ago of putting down a membrane down on my borders and covering it with gravel to save work.  Ergo, I use pots in the open.
    If it is one seedling how big a pot?
    I had no idea about pinching out Dahlia seedlings, so at what stage of the plant pinch out?
    If I want a bush show how big a pot and how many seedlings?
    Cut it back now?
    Its in the open in the sun and I keep all pots watered.
    Many thanks for the advice.

  • BMLBML Posts: 146
    JennyJ said:
    Seed raised dahlias will bulk up in time.   Here are a couple of my Bishop's Children seed-raised dahlias.  The red one is about 3 feet tall and the yellow about 5 feet (to the tallest flowers).  They're about 5 or 6 years old.
      
    Are these in pots or in a border?
  • FireFire LondonPosts: 13,910
    I would agree. A bigger pot will give a bigger plant. Good sun and feeding will help too. The individual flowers don't last that long - will look scraggy after a few days. Your foliage looks healthy and happy. I plant mine in large pots to cut down on slug damage. About 60cm off the ground / 40 across. The tubers have overwintered there well when fleeced.
  • BMLBML Posts: 146
    How big a pot for single seedlings?
    Should one go for a very large pot with several seedlings to create a bush effect?
    What should one feed them with?
    "Five or six years old." What, the plants or the corms left in the pot?
    Please excuse my ignorance. 
    Many thanks for your help.
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