Rose ID pretty please!

Joy*

I have a rose labelled Aloha which I expected to be pink. This is what has appeared. It is very large with glossy leaves and strong stems. I don't think it is Peace as its colour and habit is very unlike the Peace I used to have. Has anyone any suggestions as to what it might be, please. It most definitely isn't pink!

dappledshade

Looks a lot like Sunny Sky (a hybrid tea) with that lovely apricot blush bit at the edges of the bottom layer of petals.

AnniD

@Marlorena may have an idea ?

edhelka

Maybe a bad idea but is it possible that you have Aloha by Kordes (climber, 2003, apricot and pink) rather than Aloha by Boerner (climbing HT, 1949, pink)?

Joy*

Thank you. It does look like a hybrid tea and is a lovely flower but is a bit out of place in my tiny garden as it's the wrong colour. It doesn't help that I have two! However,  c'est la vie I suppose.  I'll have to contact the supplier and see what happens. 🙂

Marlorena

..where did you get the rose from please? and could you show more photos of the foliage and wide open blooms if possible...and a picture of the whole plant.. there are so many yellow roses today, and a number of 'Peace' lookalikes... 

Joy*

Hi Marlorena. I had a landscape gardener 'do' the design and planting so they came from a wholesale nursery. I will be in contact with them when I have done my bit of research. In my opinion, looking at the garden 7 months after it was planted, I think that too many plants were included. I'm in the process of reorganizing it by doing my front garden myself and using some of the shrubs etc from the back. (I've no experience of the small gardens you get with a new build on an estate, my previous plot was 4800 square metres, the size of a football pitch!) I've done my best to get more photographs but they are not planted as individuals.  Currently they're 1300 mm tall, the leaves are 200x170 mm, the open flower is 170 mm in diameter, so they are doing well. Since I took the photograph yesterday, the colour is changing to more apricot shades. Each flower is on a strong single stem. The brief given, was a garden based on pinks and blues with a pop of white. When roses were suggested,  David Austin type  roses were asked for. Scented flowers were very important. This yellow rose isn't perfumed. Depending upon what it might be and its habit, it might be planted elsewhere in the autumn. I'm really grateful for any help and advice you can offer. 

Marlorena

@Joy* ... thanks for the extra photos... that's a great help...  clearly not the rose you wanted, but I think this is a nice one in any case... my first inclination is to say it's one called 'Love and Peace'....  I subscribe to a site that allows me to do advanced searches, but unfortunately it's down at the moment.. and there is one other rose I have in mind... so when the site is back up again, let me have another look.... but for now I'm going with 'Love And Peace' for your rose.... it's an offspring of the well known 'Peace', which is why it's confusing a bit there... foliage is similar... and that yellow/pink blend... but Love and Peace has little to no scent..

..back later I hope...

Joy*

Many thanks Marlorena. I agree that it is a lovely specimen and if it turns out to be suitable for the front garden it will be moved in autumn. Your thoughts about it being related to Peace is a good observation since all the first shoots were blind. 

Marlorena

@Joy* … ok,.. I've been able to check further and it's not the other one so I feel reasonably confident it's 'Love & Peace', which is also known as 'Pullmann Orient Express'.. but in this country it's usually sold as 'Love And Peace'.. 

...if you look at your very first photo, and compare with these two below..
https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.229077

https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.229078 

...and then look at  your last picture of a full bloom and compare with this one..
https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.237694 

..obviously one has to allow for differences in other gardens and climates as regards colour saturation.. but the foliage seems correct too..

Joy*

Marlorena, thank you for all the research you have done. I'm sure that you have cracked it! My rose has taken a bit of a bashing in the poor weather we have had so the very outer petals are less than perfect. Now I have the opportunity to put it in a better position and will look for a more acceptable variety to replace it/them. You must be near Peter Beale's nursery. Would it be worth a long distance trip to buy container grown roses to plant later on in the year when conditions are better for moving Love and Peace? 
Also, go to the top of the class and give the pencils out!!