Plastic garden, plastic soul

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  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 2,903
    slight diversification, did anyone watch Hugh Fernley-Whittingstall, the other night.  I tell you, our government are such hypocrites, nagging us to re-cycle plastic, then dumping it in Malaysia, to cause THEM problems, NIMBIES.  My youngest son when he was in his early 20s said my re-cclying was damaging a different part of the planet, I thought he ws talking rubbish, I have to confess, he has rapid cycling bi-polar and severe depression.  I was re-cycling over 40 years ago, before it was considered "green".  About 10 years ago, I watch a programme with Fiona Bruce, and our paper/card recycling was found in Indonisia.  All those thousands of miles, bloody big carbon footprint, I say.  The foxes, I had a friend who lived on a main road in Wallington, they happily pottered around her back yard.  Where we lived some years back fairly near Three Bridges station in West Sussex, they used to come up to the back door.
  • wild edgeswild edges The north west of south east WalesPosts: 3,414
    To be fair the foxes were probably there first.
    I doubt it if the decking etc is new.The article says they 'moved in'.
    I mean the houses and people moved in to where the foxes lived. Planning policy says all new houses should provide a net gain in biodiversity over what was there before (which says a lot about how naive planners are). If you insist on coating nature in plastic then that biodiversity has to come from somewhere. Sticking some bird or bat boxes onto the wall of the house is useless if the garden offers no natural vegetation.
  • Hampshire_HogHampshire_Hog Hampshire Coast 100m from the seaPosts: 1,089
    All they had to do was talk to environmental health fox's can be humanly removed and I don't mean killed it's often done and has no detrimental effect on the animals.
    My brother who is a game keeper often gets ask to trap and remove them from family homes particularly where small children are present.

    "You don't stop gardening because you get old, you get old because you stop gardening." - The Hampshire Hog
  • wild edgeswild edges The north west of south east WalesPosts: 3,414
    Any idea where they dump them afterwards? I doubt there's many places in this country that would welcome a family of foxes being released onto the land.
  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 17,479
    Given what this family has made of its garden it is clearly not in touch with nature and probably afraid of it.

    I've always thought decking was an invitation to critters to move in and shelter but mostly would have expected rats and creepy crawlies.   I assume foxes get re-homed in woodland or scrub - away from hunts.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • wild edgeswild edges The north west of south east WalesPosts: 3,414
    The problem is though that if the habitat they're released into is suitable for foxes then it will already have foxes there and they will be holding the territory. If there's no foxes then it's not suitable for them and they'll have to move on and will probably end up in conflict at some point. Releasing one fox let alone a whole family of foxes into a bit of woodland or wherever could be devastating for the local ecosystem either way so it can hardly be called 'humane'.
  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 17,479
    As I understand it, foxes are deserting "suitable" countryside because suburbia has such rich pickings including people who feed them every day.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • Hampshire_HogHampshire_Hog Hampshire Coast 100m from the seaPosts: 1,089
    edited 12 June
    Any idea where they dump them afterwards? I doubt there's many places in this country that would welcome a family of foxes being released onto the land.
    They are all released in to local wood land / countryside on the three estate's he manages it's not hundreds just a few each year and not very often a family it's more likely to be an individual, and they are not dumped they are first put into a large enclosure where they are left quiet to get use to the new environment then after about a month the gate is just opened and they are free to go some just go like a flash others hang around for a while a little food is provided as there is not all the McDonald's or fish and chips packets etc etc out in the wild that they are use to.

    Of course the other alternative is just to shoot them.

    "You don't stop gardening because you get old, you get old because you stop gardening." - The Hampshire Hog
  • HouseFinchHouseFinch British Columbia, Canada (Zone 5)Posts: 262
    This was the news for us yesterday. Absolutely devastating that someone would do something like this to living creatures.

  • josusa47josusa47 Posts: 2,331
    While I sympathise with the boy and his bees, I can't help wondering why they felt the need to keep industrial-strength wasp killer in the house ....  sometimes what goes around comes around.
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