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Assorted planty recommendations - bush salvias and hardy geraniums

FireFire Posts: 18,973
Can I pick the hive mind?

- I'd like to find a white geranium in a similar style to Rozanne, that highly floriferous throughout the summer until the frosts. Is there such a white plant?
- I'm interested in buying a salvia Nachtvlinder. Various different sites give differing flowering times. Some saying it ends in August and others say it goes until the first frost. I have Bumbles which happily flower from May to the frosts. Is NV similar to Bumble in your experience or a different animal? Do bees like it as much?
- I'm looking for a similar salvia (as above) in white (or very light pink). Hardy above -5oC, same flower shape, beloved of bees. Any suggestions please.

Many thanks



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  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,446
    I have S. Nachtvlinder. It's a spreader rather than a compact bush, and me it keeps on flowering until the first frost (usually October here) but I have light sandy soil which suits salvias, so it might be different on heavier soil.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 87,899
    JennyJ said:
    I have S. Nachtvlinder. It's a spreader rather than a compact bush, and me it keeps on flowering until the first frost (usually October here) but I have light sandy soil which suits salvias, so it might be different on heavier soil.
    Mine does the same in a west facing border  ... and we have similar free draining gritty loam. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,466
    I agree with the comments on "Nachtvlinder", it flowers until the frost but it is low growing and suckers quite a lot. I haven't grown this one, but it may be suitable 
    https://middletonnurseries.co.uk/shop/salvia-greggii-emperor
    Regarding white varieties, l find they don't seem to be as tough as the other colours , but that may be just a coincidence. There don't seem many pure white, but this is very close and flowers for a long time. 
    https://www.ashwoodnurseries.com/shop/plants/salvias/salvia-microphylla-heatwave-glimmer.html
    I have this one on order so can't vouch for it yet (ignore the name on the link)
    https://middletonnurseries.co.uk/shop/salvia-hot-lips-36hha
    And this one described as creamy yellow, but the one l have looks whiter, more like it does in the photo
    https://www.ashwoodnurseries.com/shop/plants/salvias/salvia-trelissick-trelissick.html
    Hope this is of some help  :)
  • floraliesfloralies Posts: 2,687
    I have NV growing in a well drained clay soil in full sun. It grows in a large mound rather than too upright. It flowers well up to the frosts. Salvia x jamensis "Heatwave Glimmer" might fit the white one you are looking for Fire. I love Salvias!
  • FireFire Posts: 18,973
    Thanks everyone.
  • FireFire Posts: 18,973
    @Dovefromabove do you have any thoughts on white, long flowering geraniums?
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,466
    Nipping in ahead of Dove, there's this one , l have it and it flowers for ages.
    https://www.ballyrobertgardens.com/products/geranium-sanguineum-album
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,512
    For me, NV is better behaved than my romping reds, but its is on poor clay. Small solitary bees seem to prefer the Nemorosa types, but big bumbles go for the shrubbies, NV included. I have a half hoop plant support encouraging it into a more upright shape and to stop it flopping on the echinaceas in front:


    Geranium Clarkei Kashmir White has a long flowering season, but it does have fine pink veining, so not a pure white.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • FireFire Posts: 18,973
    I've ordered some Geranium Clarkei Kashmir. thanks
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,446
    AnniD said:
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    Regarding white varieties, l find they don't seem to be as tough as the other colours , but that may be just a coincidence.
    I'd go along with this.  The only shrubby salvia I've ever lost (all plants not just the odd one in a particularly exposed position) was Trebah Lilac White.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
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