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What rose will it be?

Jess is in the GardenJess is in the Garden Posts: 1,022
edited May 2019 in Plants
I inherited only 3 plants in the old, neglected garden belonging to the cottage we recently bought.
1 is a vigorous looking, very thorny, shrub rose that I put in a pot and have carefully tended ever since (it was in quite a bad way, as the garden had been previously abandoned for about 3 years).
We named it 'Helen', after the old lady who sold us the house...and the three of us have been placing bets on what colour it'll be. 
Is it ridiculous to be excited now that the first bud is starting to open?! 
Looks like it may be a deep plum or a red.
Can't wait  :)
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  • yorkshireroseyorkshirerose Posts: 574
    Could be R. 'Munstead Wood' if you're lucky. It's a really deep red with a heavenly fragrance. Or possibly R' Darcy Bussel'
    Please let us have another photo when the bud breaks
    A gardener's work is never at an end  - (John Evelyn 1620-1706)
  • Jess is in the GardenJess is in the Garden Posts: 1,022
    yorkshirerose said:
    Could be R. 'Munstead Wood' if you're lucky. It's a really deep red with a heavenly fragrance. Or possibly R' Darcy Bussel'
    Please let us have another photo when the bud breaks
    Here it is!!
    It is a slightly pinkish red, with bring yellow stamens and single petalled. The scent is extremely light. I've planted it out and it seems very happy, but I'd love to know what it is called. Wish it had been Munster W or Darcy B! Still, it came with the house, survived years of total neglect and as such deserves a chance! Also has hips, as i recall when we bought the cottage and it was still in its original spot.


  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,798
    edited June 2019
    Thats a gorgeous one 😊  Could it be trying to show you it’s a climber I wonder ... that’s a tall stem. 
    Wonder if @Marlorena can ID it? 😊 
    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • Jess is in the GardenJess is in the Garden Posts: 1,022
    edited June 2019
    I wondered too, but certainly when we found it all neglected it looked like a shrub and hadn't gone any further. 
    it is rather pretty and looks nice against the cotinus, I think.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 21,049
    Here are some from Peter Beales. Maybe it's one of them. https://www.classicroses.co.uk/roses.html?p=1&pbr_bloom_type=23&pbr_rose_colour=15&pbr_rose_group=595_87
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,798
    edited June 2019
    I was wondering about this one ... next door have it on their fence and it looks very similar ... especially with that dark foliage and the blooms in clusters and that little hint of white near the yellow stamens

    https://www.classicroses.co.uk/roses/parkdirektor-riggers-climbing-rose.html

    blooms in clusters https://www.crocus.co.uk/plants/_/rosa-parkdirektor-riggers/classid.2000023878/#
    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,450
    ...we could do with some more photos on that I think... full close ups of wide open blooms etc..  maybe another time.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • Jess is in the GardenJess is in the Garden Posts: 1,022
    edited June 2019
    Thanks for the links both Dove and Busy L.

    These are the best photos I am able to take with my phone.

    It looks the closest in colour, size and petal habitat to Duchess of Portland, but it is hardly scented at all, and is very thorny (almost like a rugosa) which makes me think that you're probably right Dove and it could well be the Parkdirektor Riggers (what a name) after all. That's a big one! Apparently the Parkdirektor can be trained as a shrub with support...I'm hoping it has a long flowering season, whatever it turns out to be. Time will tell  :)
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,798
    edited June 2019
    Mine is only an uneducated sort of guess based on the one next door.

    @Marlorena really knows about roses 🌹 
    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • dappledshadedappledshade Posts: 982
    Sometimes uneducated guesses are pretty good  :)
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