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Guernsey Donkey2Guernsey Donkey2 Posts: 6,713
Is this a Viticella Madame Julia Correvon, an Etoile Viollette or  Comtesse de Bouchard?  I have lost the label, the flowers are huge, although the plant is quiet spindly. It is in flower now - each one measures approx 6 inches across. Thankyou.
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  • FairygirlFairygirl west central ScotlandPosts: 46,171
    edited May 2019
    Not EV, and  C de B is paler I think, so most likely Julia.
    It seems early for it, but I expect you're a fair bit ahead of us up here, GD  :)

    Should have asked - is it definitely one of those three?
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  • Kitty 2Kitty 2 ManchesterPosts: 5,150
    Agree with Fairy. EV is purple and the Comtesse is a much paler pink. I don't have a Julia, but you can definitely eliminate the other two possibilities.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Billericay, EssexPosts: 8,516
    Here's a pic of my Julia Correvon

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  • None of those 3
  • RubytooRubytoo On the sofa, Southerly aspect.Posts: 1,287
    edited May 2019
    I know it is not Mme Julia Correvon just by the petals.
    Is the colour red to start with?
    And are the stamens red tipped?
    Sorry not being rude about your photography skills just some times the camera and light does not show the "true" colour.
    And what colour does the older flower fade to?
    Pink, purple or red fade?
    Take a look at Westerplatte.
    http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/new-clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=596

    The colours on the Hull site are a little darker but I wondered as your pic is in bright sunlight. Your stamens might be as dark , only me guessing.
    My mum now has my old Westerplatte but it is flowering now.
    After a while the flowers fade to a lighter red with a bright purpley pink tone.
  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,579
    Snap Rubytoo.  I thought Westerplatte too.  Glorious clem when it's happy but mine struggled in the Belgian garden and I can't see it enjoying life here somehow.
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  • Ladybird4Ladybird4 Third rock from the sunPosts: 33,845
    Could it be Rouge Cardinal?
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  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,579
    Another good possibility but smaller flowers I think.
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  • Ladybird4Ladybird4 Third rock from the sunPosts: 33,845
    Rouge Cardinal has flowers of 15cm so I sort of went off Guernsey Donkey saying they were that size:
      "I have lost the label, the flowers are huge, although the plant is quiet spindly. It is in flower now - each one measures approx 6 inches across. Thankyou."

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  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 27,579
    Really?  Mine never got beyond 10cms in Belgium.  Fab colour tho.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
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