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Which of these clematis to put where...?

LG_LG_ Posts: 4,064
I succombed to special offers and now have three new clems (two here, one on order): Justus, Etoile Violette and Frances Rivis. I have two questions:

1. If you have grown any of these, can you tell me if any tend toward mid- or pale pink at any point? I want to plant one at the back of a 'hot' border of reds, oranges and yellows. Pictures of Etoile Violette vary from deep burgundy to deep purple, both of which would work, but a pinky purple or dark pink would not. Which of the three would you put here? Or would you not?

2. Which of the three would cope best with some shade? 
'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
- Cicero


  • Ladybird4Ladybird4 Posts: 35,835
    I have Etoile Violette - definitely a gorgeous purple in my garden and Frances Rivis - blue. Both of those will take some shade. I'm sorry but I do not know Justus. Personally I would not place either of those two with the hot border you describe but thats just my taste so if you like them just go for it!
    Cacoethes: An irresistible urge to do something inadvisable
  • RubytooRubytoo Posts: 1,308
    edited April 2019
    I think your first is actually one called Justa.
    That is a pale lavender  or pinky mauve? depending on your idea of colour description. A pale one.
    That will take some shade.

    Etoille violet is a deep lush purple, and stays dark.

    Francis Rivis is a  purple/blue too .

    The A to Z of the above site is great. There is also a link on Etoiles entry there to the International clematis site with a nice article
    Good Luck they are all nice.
    But Etoille is a dark colour so may be lost in a shady position.
  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,064
    Thanks both. You're right, it's Justa, not Justus.  

    The Etoile Violette on that site is a much pinkier purple than I thought, so definitely not near the hot colours! However, Frances Rivis will flower before those colours will get going - it's at its hottest in late summer and is mostly green for the next month or two, so I think I'll risk her there... She's also my favourite of the three and that area is the most visible from the house!

    I think I'll go for Justa in the shadier spot (not full shade) and Etoile Violette can go in the last spot where she has a bit of room and no clashes! Thanks for helping me to decide :)
    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
  • Ladybird4Ladybird4 Posts: 35,835
    You are most welcome LG_ I love the sound of your 'hot border'. I'll go and take a look at Justa now. Clematis are one of my favourite plants.
    Cacoethes: An irresistible urge to do something inadvisable
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 11,187
    Hi @LG_ l have Justa and would describe it as a blue/lavender colour. I think it would do better in the shade.  :)
    A nice dilemma to have! 
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 50,366
    E.V is quite dark, LG. It's a red based purple. I don't like blue, or pastel colours, so I wouldn't have it otherwise.  :)
     It's happy almost anywhere though. Mine is west-ish facing, and gets sun from late morning when it's flowering.
    The colour in this pic is pretty accurate

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....

    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,064
    Thanks FG - you have confirmed that the spot I plan for it is the right one :-). Hope you're well?

    And thanks Anni - I'm hoping that the paler Justa flowers will gently light up the shadier spot too.

    Having inherited a rampant Montana and a Nelly Moser that appears some years but not others, these are the first clems I've actually bought. I can see how it might become addictive...
    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
  • Justa and Etoile Violette like wet feet, Francis Rivis drier.
  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,064
    Excellent - that confirms their positions further! Nowhere's wet, but the dampest will be Justa, followed by Etoile Violette. 
    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
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