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VoyagerxpVoyagerxp Posts: 646
Hi i've had this rose since 22/07/18  and it put on a great show last year and this year it put on some new growth but its got these patches on the leaves. Its only on the new growth as i can see. It this black spot, i've only started keeping roses from last year so new to rose problems.


  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,895
    No it isn't black spot, that fungus isn't generally active until temps reach about 68F..
    I think yours is downy mildew, maybe due to the weather or cultural conditions..

    I don't spray, that's not my thing so I never recommend any, but it's too late for spraying that in any case, so what I would probably do there is to pick off all infected leaves, or at least the most offensive, and allow the plant to grow fresh ones..

    It's a tricky rose for a pot I think... it doesn't like having its growth restricted and your rose doesn't look entirely happy if I might say that... but I've no idea how it's being cultivated there.... best of luck with your rose.. I hope it perks up for you with the warmer weather arriving very soon...
    East Anglia, England
  • VoyagerxpVoyagerxp Posts: 646
    Thanks for your reply, i've taken as many of the offending leaves as i can.  Its been quite mild in my neck of the woods but then all of a sudden its been frosty. Not sure if that's not helped.
  • TopbirdTopbird Posts: 7,893
    I have Wollerton Old Hall - but in the ground.

    I find it to be quite a vigorous rose and (like Marlorena) I'm not sure it's a good one for growing in a pot. It might be showing signs of stress more than anything.
    Heaven is ... sitting in the garden with a G&T and a cat while watching the sun go down
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,895
    It grew 8 foot in the first year for me.. very tall lanky grower that insisted on support, otherwise the canes would be flat on the ground.. I don't actually recognise that one in the pot from its growth habit, it's quite compact and well mannered...

    The blooms are wonderfully scented though, if you like that kind of almost toilet soap scent.. and the flowers have a nice apricot/cream colour...

    I think Jude the Obscure, which has a similar colour and scent, is probably the better rose.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • VoyagerxpVoyagerxp Posts: 646
    Do you think it would be better to cut out a square in my slabs and plant it in the ground?

  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,895
    It might be best but there's no hurry... keep it in the pot until it shows signs of deteriorating, which won't be for some time, despite some foliar issues right now..
    Leave it for another year at least.. maybe longer, you can keep these going for some time..  when it seems quite pot bound,  then worry about it..  it looks quite a deep pot which is good...  
    East Anglia, England
  • SandygardenSandygarden Posts: 119
    Marlorena- I love your posts, thank you. You have inspired me to plant 4 new roses this winter (Bare root): Cornelia, Superfairy pink, Banksiae Lutea, Glorious Gardener. This is to add to my Rambling Rector and Many happy Returns (I think). Is this the start of a rose obsession??
  • VoyagerxpVoyagerxp Posts: 646
    Thanks for your post Marlorena, most appreciated. I've only started keeping roses since beginning of last year and now i have 22. I really think i have a bit of an obsession, there are just so many lovely roses i can't help myself. 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,895
    @Sandygarden @Voyagerxp

    I'm delighted you are both growing some lovely roses, and getting into the swing of it, so to speak... all I'm trying to do really is to encourage people to try a rose for their gardens, especially if they've not had an interest before.. I just want to show how easy they can be..  you do as little or as much as you please with them...

    Thank you for your words of appreciation.. that's so nice.. and makes me feel it's worthwhile...   'Cornelia' is one of my favourite roses too.. 
    East Anglia, England
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