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Rose Phyllis Bide

GartenerGartener Posts: 99
Hi all,

has anyone got experience with Rambling rose Phyllis Bide?

i am looking to plant it up a pergola in a shady~ish area (that does get 3-4 hrs sun in summer) and the top of pergola is always sunny. In your experience how’s the growth, disease resistance and Repeat flowering?



  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,347
    Growth can be slow to begin with... it should be low in thorns, but it doesn't have much scent..  it repeat blooms very well right into autumn..  so I gather, I haven't grown it myself..
    This is an unusually large specimen [not my garden]…. enjoy your roses !..

    East Anglia, England
  • GartenerGartener Posts: 99
    edited March 2019
    Thanks Marlorena. This kind of looks like a smaller version of Compassion rose. Tbh: I dont like the small flowers and the shape but i already ve a few HT shaped climbing roses, so its time to try something new. Maybe it will grow on me (excuse the word spiel)... :smile:
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 22,633
    I have Compassion and Phyllis Bide, Compassion is much bigger and pinker. I first saw Phyllis Bide at Sudeley Castle in the Cotswolds and thought it looked very pretty but not very vigorous. I wanted one to grow in a pot. It is pretty but predators seem to love it, it gets greenly, rose sawfly and its tips die back. It also needs feeding more than my other potted roses as its leaves go yellow when its hungry. I have Malvern Hills in a pot nearby which isn't so demanding, flowers more and insects leave it alone. But my daughter has Phyllis Bide planted in the ground and its doing much better for her. We are both in SW France.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • GartenerGartener Posts: 99
    Oh i see. I will be planting it in the ground, so hopefully that will be ok. 

    Malvern Hills is not the colour i want and also much bigger in size than Phyllis Bide. 
  • JemulaJemula Posts: 185
    I have Phyllis Bide growing over an arbour with morning sun. It has two flushes per year, the first one being more prolific.  The overall effect is very pretty in flower, but the individual flowers are very small and untidy looking close up. Some blackspot in my garden.  I don't find the scent strong but some people do. It does have lots of little hooked thorns.
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