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Am I asking too much.  I would like a clematis that doesn't have too strong a fragrance (better to have none at all), to grow in a pot and trained up a trellis, with full sun in the summer and quite shady in the winter.  The trellis is approx 7 foot high. I would prefer red or white flowers.  Any suggestions?


  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,391
    There are several varieties labelled as 'patio clematis' or similar which have been bred for this type of use.  Google just found these:

    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • RubytooRubytoo Posts: 1,323
    What time of year do you want flowers?

    Some reds fade badly in sun to a colour I personally dislike. I can't really described it, like a pinky purple yuckiness. Take a good look at any you choose.
    I know they can't help it, it just puts me off when one chooses a lovely deep red like Niobe or Westerplatte and they go blurgh. Shade helps but sounds like you may want flowers in summer?
    On the Hull site Westerplatte is said to have some scent I never noticed it when we grew it.
    But you can see the fade on both of the above on there  so you can see what I mean. You might not mind.

    Gravetye Beauty keeps a good red colouring, is a texensis type, Deep cherry tulip flowers that open wider into gappy stars.
    There many be new more modern variety these days. I just remembered the white mildew on ours last year, not a nice look. 
  • Thank you for your recommendations.  I have looked at all the sites briefly, and will take a closer look tomorrow. We do have importation limits with postage costs and some companies just won't send to the Channel Islands.  However if Raymond Evison has a particular clematis in stock we can usually cut the cost of postage.
  • RubytooRubytoo Posts: 1,323
    Of course Guernsey, that is a pain , sorry its obvious with your user name but easy to overlook.
    So the postage between Channel isles is okay or a bit better?
    Or do you get your coracle out...

    Do you ever see supermarket ones? The little "liners" because a viticella that is often sold is Madame Julia Correvon. It does get a bit bigger than you might want but as a group three you cut it hard back every year anyway.
    It is a good doer. Even from little liners after a year or so they make good plants if your hoggies eat all the sluggies.
    It is a little irregular in shape four petals some of which bend and fold a bit.
    Photo of one of ours, because though it is a bit irregular in form, the petal  texture is really nice.

    Sorry I hope you can find something within your import limitations.
  • MarranMarran Posts: 182
    "Niobe" is a lovely one .... :-)
  • Yes, Niobe is a lovely clematis.  To be honest I am giving up finding a suitable clematis.  Our pot is just 15 inches wide (at top) by 13 inches deep, so I don't think it will be suitable.  We had to move a Montana from this pot last weekend, as predicted by those who know far more about plants than I can admit to the plant just did not flourish.  I have ordered a rambling rose, but again this isn't suitable for such a small pot.  I think we will have to set our sights on a different type of climbing plant.  As yet I am not sure what will suit this patio pot with trellis behind.
  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,391
    edited March 2019
    If you are can get away with using annuals, there are a few red or white ipomea (morning glory) seeds around.  They'll suit your climate well and flower for around 2-3 months from about July.
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,911
    GD... I think that pot is fine for smaller clematis like the Boulevard range, from Evisons..
    I have one called 'Corinne', and although it's in the ground, I wouldn't worry if it was in this container below, which measures 16'' x 13'' [18'' from outside rim]..  however, it does grow to only about 4 foot.. but I think there are slightly taller ones..

    ..these small clematis don't need huge pots...

    East Anglia, England
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,158
    I think Bob the Gardener's suggestion is clever.  Let's you change colour every year too for the price of a packet of seeds.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
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