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mnistmnist Posts: 9
I am an avid American fan of Gardeners’ World and especially Monty Don. On a recent program Monty mentioned Lysimachia Candela which has been developed to be a more compact and less invasive version of Lysimachia atropurea. Of course I wanted to have it for my own garden, but every web search indicates this plant is not available in the US.  Perhaps over time it will be, but not now. 

I’m curious to know if any of you not in the United States have had a problem similar to this - wanting a plant that is not available to you, for whatever reason?


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  • Ladybird4Ladybird4 Posts: 37,711
    Hello mnist and welcome to the forum. An interesting question that! I suspect there may be exotics protected now by the CITES convention - some Orchid species for example. In the case of some of the imported plants brought in by the Victorians such as the wild rhododendron and Japanese knotweed it would have been wonderful if these had been banned way back when. But there you go - we just have to keep controlling the pests as best we can.
    Cacoethes: An irresistible urge to do something inadvisable
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,003
    I can't think of any plant I want to grow that suits my current garden and climate and that I can't get either from French nurseries or a raid on Belgium - which I know better after living there 25 years - or by growing from seed.   

    One big problem is phytosanitary restrictions and agreements between countries.  We all need to be very careful about what we import from where in case it becomes an invasive species, threatens native flora and fauna or carries unseen microbiotic pathogens that could devastate native species.   A case in point is this pathogen from South America that is spreading rapidly thru European olive groves and killing the trees.  Then there's Dutch elmdisease, ash die-back and so on and so forth. 
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,429
    I've found some sedums and other succulents that seem to be readily available in the US but are nowhere to be found over here. I think this is more to do with there being no market for them here though so it's not worth paying the shipping costs and dealing with customs and regulations to bring them over.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,534
    I've found some sedums and other succulents that seem to be readily available in the US but are nowhere to be found over here. I think this is more to do with there being no market for them here though so it's not worth paying the shipping costs and dealing with customs and regulations to bring them over.
    I've found the same with Sempervivums,lots of varieties in the US but sadly not here  :/
    I can live with it but they do have some nice ones........!
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,511
    Hello, yes I often struggle to find plants I want because the choice is fairly limited locally. I use a French mailorder nursery for most perennials and English and Dutch ones for roses not available in Spain. I am struggling to source the Terranova Kudos range of agastache - the Mandarin one is sometimes available but can’t find the red one anywhere. My French supplier has stopped doing most of the more colourful Echinaceas, including Orange Passion, which I originally got from them and would love to have more.

    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,618
    I'd like some of the roses only available in the U.S. and I know that they would really love some of ours that we get in Europe...   whilst it's not impossible to ship between U.S and Europe,  with all the regulations it becomes impracticable with the likelihood that ones roses will be dead on arrival...
    ...but this is with good reason, as they have Rose Rosette Disease and we don't, as yet... and we really do not want to import that.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • I would love to buy some of the tens of thousands of varieties of daylily which are available in the USA, but the phytosanitary requirements are a barrier, and so most US nurseries will not ship to Europe.
  • RubytooRubytoo Posts: 1,582
    @mnist . Have you tried looking for Lysimachia Innlyscand.

    On the RHS site it says Lysimachia Candela='Innlyscand'

    Name status: preferred selling name.

    Sorry if you tried already.
    Was just a thought as in the U.K. Clematis Hagley hybrid is known as Pink Chiffon across the pond.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,618
    Agastache 'Kudos Coral' should be available from the mainland here, as I got it from somewhere.. maybe Hayloft...  or Cotswold Garden Flowers... 
    East Anglia, England
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