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Ideas for this space please.
Robmarston
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I’d like some ideas for the area in the picture below please.
This view is west facing. Id like to put a ceanothus against the wall to the right on the corner. The gateway that has been boarded up will be removed and a real gate put in, so the top semi circle will be clear and open. My idea is to plant a rose
next to the ceanothus and train it up the column and let it spread and hang over the top of the gate arch and dangle over the top of the gate, which I thought would be very pretty. My questions are this: would the rose be ok planted next to the ceanothus? Is it easy to train it straight up and over the top? I was thinking of mme. Alfred carriere, but was wondering if a climbing rose would do the job or if I’d need a rambler? If so, does anyone have any recommendations? It’s about 10 ft/3m to the copings over the top of the gate.
Also, does anyone have any other, better ideas for the area?
This view is west facing. Id like to put a ceanothus against the wall to the right on the corner. The gateway that has been boarded up will be removed and a real gate put in, so the top semi circle will be clear and open. My idea is to plant a rose
next to the ceanothus and train it up the column and let it spread and hang over the top of the gate arch and dangle over the top of the gate, which I thought would be very pretty. My questions are this: would the rose be ok planted next to the ceanothus? Is it easy to train it straight up and over the top? I was thinking of mme. Alfred carriere, but was wondering if a climbing rose would do the job or if I’d need a rambler? If so, does anyone have any recommendations? It’s about 10 ft/3m to the copings over the top of the gate.
Also, does anyone have any other, better ideas for the area?
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A rose growing near that area should be fine too, so long as both plants are put in at similar times, it allows them to establish better. I wouldn't go for Madame Alfred Carriere. Something like A Shropshire Lad, by David Austin would do better on that scale.
How about putting two roses in there? Or one rose and a clematis and not bothering with a ceanothus? I do like ceanothus but wonder if it would bush put too much or get tangled by the rose too easily?
Today when I was looking at it I was beginning to lean away from the ceanothus idea. I had one before and loved it, but I'm thinking a rose would be best. I could train it up the wall and let it scramble and tumble over the arch. So which rose would be best? Would a rambler like rambling rector work or be too crazy? What are robust, climbers that could cover that area? And what combination of rose and clematis would you suggest? Should the clematis be a group three, or would a montana be ok?
... most people when talking of Ceanothus default to the Spring blooming versions, which are usually dark blue and flower for 3 weeks...
...So, we have better options by choosing a summer flowering Ceanothus for your wall... may I recommend 'Gloire de Versailles', which is semi evergreen and takes a beast from the east to defoliate it... it flowers profusely and continuously from early June to early Winter, and is capable of 10 foot or so.. I keep mine to 6-8 foot... it is powder blue in colour, with good foliage...
… I tie mine back for support, it gets real top heavy with all the panicles of flowers and grows rapidly.. your rose should bloom throughout the same period... 'Mme A Carriere' would be a good choice in my opinion, if that's the one you want..
...If you want more rose options I can give you those... for a more informal look, I enjoy 8 foot tall, thornless free standing shrub rose, 'Kew Gardens' with rambler 'Purple Skyliner'... both flower from June to November...
Have fun with your posts and pillars... I'm sure it'll look great in time..