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Im hoping someone can identify these? The green bush is in a friends front garden we were looking at it back in the summer I took the photo then it’s huge and really needs a good tidy up, I keep thinking it looks like bamboo leaves but it doesn’t grow like one? and the one that looks like sticks I took yesterday, I’ve seen those dead seed pods or dead flowers before but can’t think what it is!

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  • RubytooRubytoo On the sofa, Southerly aspect.Posts: 1,287
    On the first one, does it have a weeping droopy habit?
    I was thinking Buddleia alternifolia, except it does not look grey enough. I had one for a while and possibly the newer leaves came in green and went greyer. I can't remember now.

     
  • Hi Rubytoo, thanks for the reply, yes it does look weepy/droopy bit like a sort of willow, it’s really like a hedge and about 10ft high at least! As for the dried up one would you think weigelia that has it’s winter clothes on??!! I have tried to google it in winter, dead, seed heads but cant find any pictures that look like my photo.
  • AndyDeanAndyDean Posts: 157
    I immediately thought buddleia alternifolia too...
  • RubytooRubytoo On the sofa, Southerly aspect.Posts: 1,287
    @AndyDean snap :D I liked ours but it was unfortunately too big for our little garden.
    Astrantia. Yes it is Weigela. I just popped outside and looked at ours. It is. :)
  • AndyDeanAndyDean Posts: 157
    @Rubytoo
     ;) I'm always pleased when I feel I can actually answer a question on this forum!
    I've got one planted at the beginning of this year in our (also small) garden - I'm thinking of trying to grow it as a standard so it doesn't take over...
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 SomersetPosts: 9,218
    I beg to differ, the second pic looks more like elder, probably the dark purple one - but I might well be wrong!  At this time of year, it's hard to be certain.
  • RubytooRubytoo On the sofa, Southerly aspect.Posts: 1,287
    edited December 2018
    Oops sorry @Lizzie27, the stems are a bit fuzzy so I guessed they were like the newer ones on ours, the seed heads are spread out and curved like the photo on newer stems. I'd no idea elder looked the same.
    Sorry I got it wrong Astrantia.

    @AndyDean would like to see that, I imagine the bud would look lovely as a standard and a bit more practical and manageable in a smaller space.
    I will have to ask my aunty for it back :D
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 SomersetPosts: 9,218
    You don't need to apologise Rubytoo, I am probably wrong anyway but it did look like the elder I've got, "Purple Lace". 
     I planted a buddleia alternifolia in the school garden I look after, thinking it would look good cascading over a slope. Instead of which it fell over and died. Shame.
  • RubytooRubytoo On the sofa, Southerly aspect.Posts: 1,287
    Lizzie27 said:
     I planted a buddleia alternifolia in the school garden I look after, thinking it would look good cascading over a slope. Instead of which it fell over and died. Shame.
    I've had that happen to a few things too...shh don't tell.
  • 2. Is definitely Weigela...the brown finger things are the seed pods. It has opposite leaves.
    By the way it is far from dead you can see very strong healthy buds.

    http://www.gardentaining.com/PSC2620/plant_images/weigela_florida/images/weigela_fruit.jpg

    Lizzie 27....Sambucus /elder do not have dried seed pods...they have berries.

    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
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