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A yellow rose to replace an unhappy Charles Darwin?

NollieNollie Posts: 6,772
My Charles Darwin, new this year, is unhappy, I think. It gets full afternoon sun and the blooms were a horrible dirty cream colour and never really opened properly, sort of shrivelled in the sun. There is space to get another two to make a threesome but I’m not sure it’s a good idea to order another two CDs. I know it’s probably far too early to judge and being an Austin I should give it another couple of seasons, but I could move it somewhere less exposed so as not to waste it. But what to replace it with?

@Marlorena I seem to recall you said in another post somewhere that Julia Child was a good yellow rose for full sun, was that right? 

I have Golden Celebration in the back of same bed, so don’t really want that.

It can be quite low growing, maybe a floribunda? Maybe not as small as a patio rose though.

Any suggestions folks?
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.


  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 11,182
    Graham Thomas perhaps ? Another Austin Rose, but the one l had  has always flowered well.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 6,772
    I did swither between Charles and Graham at the time @AnniD and I can’t remember exactly why I went for Charles in the end, but I think it might have been Graham would have wanted to climb here - I’m sure I read that on an American site. This is for the front of my Oranges and Lemons border so I want to keep it under a metre high if I can.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 11,182
    I am not 100% sure Nollie, but l think there are 2 versions of Graham Thomas, one a climber and the other a shrub. Have just done a quick search on there and found out there are 3 !  :)
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,443
    'Graham Thomas' will climb if you let it, it does that here too... I pruned off a long cane from it this summer as I didn't want that... it's just that in warmer climates it does it quicker, and if you try to keep it as a shrub, it will still put out long canes...

    It's a shame about 'Charles Darwin'... I think you should give it more time, it grows well in hot Southern California in San Diego for instance... but I have heard it can crisp in excessive heat...

    Yes I'm very pleased with Julia Child 'Absolutely Fabulous' here..  and my favourite go to rose in yellow is 'The Poet's Wife' for scent and continuous blooming.. 'Blythe Spirit' is semi double, not so much scent, but blooms all the time... these will grow above a metre but can be kept under control... in my garden they grow to 5 foot by midsummer but I prune back somewhat..

    You might like 'Korresia' [Sunsprite]… and I've heard nothing but good things about 'Golden Beauty' for hotter climates... this one stays shorter I think... best of luck choosing your rose Nollie... 
    East Anglia, England
  • NollieNollie Posts: 6,772
    Lots of great suggestions, thanks Marlorena. I do like the look of the Poet’s Wife but wasn’t sure it would be ok in full sun here. I didn’t realise Julia Child and Ab Fab were the same rose, that looked lovely in your recent photo. I will check out the other two, but do quite fancy Julia!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 9,983
    I have 4 Graham Thomas in my front garden, a lovely shade of yellow- planted under what is now a big acer....
    It's all too established to move any of it now, but the roses do their best and I often see flowers appearing out of my acer at about 10ft 

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,443
    I should have mentioned a new rose that's been getting rave reviews by those I know that have it.... 'Roald Dahl'...  providing the name is not problematic.. it is for some people apparently..

    'Molineux' is another well regarded yellow.. named after a football ground.. I've always wanted this one, but not in my collection for some reason..

    Here are some of my yellow roses, in case anyone would like to see some bright photos on a cold evening in November, such as it is...

    'Graham Thomas' [Austin]

    'Absolutely Fabulous' [Carruth..U.S.]

    'Imogen' [Austin]

    'The Poet's Wife' [Austin]

    'The Lark Ascending' [Austin]

    'Vanessa Bell' [Austin]

    'Tottering by Gently' [Austin]

    'Blythe Spirit' [Austin]

    East Anglia, England
  • floraliesfloralies Posts: 2,211
    I have Charles Darwin @Nollie, it has struggled here for a few years but this year did better, maybe because I fed it more. But having said that, the blooms do tend to fade in the hot sun. 
  • JemulaJemula Posts: 168
    I have grown Molineux, mentioned by Marlorena, for many years and can recommend it. Free flowering, good scent (to my nose) and never throws out long octopus canes which many Austin roses do. I also like Eye of the Tiger but this one would not be to everybody’s taste!
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 28,848
    I had Molyneux in my last garden, briefly.   It died of cold in its third year.......  Good flowers tho.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
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