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LuckyheatherLuckyheather Scotland Posts: 64
I am looking for some advice on planting a small tree, where we are thinking of planting it would be roughly be 2 -3 feet away from a pond we thought of a Cherry tree or a Silver Birch can anyone help? 
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  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 2,920
    edited October 2018
    Is pond natural or does it have a liner.?

    Trees near to a pond...not a good idea.
    All the leaves will fall into the pond.
    Maybe a small evergreen shrub would be worth thinking about.?

    Silver birches /Cherry trees are not exactly small.
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • LuckyheatherLuckyheather Scotland Posts: 64
    We have a pond liner and the worry is the tree roots! we are not overly concerned about leaves as they can easlily be removed.
  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 18,150
    Believe me, you will be sick of leaf removal after one autumn of it.

    I support silver surfer’s suggestion. Maybe Eleagnus ebbingei, which has tiny powerfully scented flowers at this time of the year.
    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
  • K67K67 Leicestershire Posts: 2,475

    Cotoneaster Juliette - Weeping Cotoneaster Tree

  • FairygirlFairygirl west central ScotlandPosts: 35,664
    If the pond's small, you can  net it.Best to make one for the purpse so that it's easy to work with though.
    Having said that - I wouldn't be planting anything that size near a pond either, unless the pond is massive and has a very substantial liner. We had trees near our pond at the last house and they weren't an issue, but it was a huge pond, and the liner was hefty. I have an apple tree in a raised bed by my pond, but the pond is easily netted. 
    A nice shrub as suggested might be better. Viburnum is  another that would work - whether evergreen or deciduous, depending on your attitude to the leaves.  :)
    Most of my leaves get blown across the other side of the garden rather than go in the pond  ;)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....


  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 4,659
    A number of small trees were highlighted on the recent edition of Gardeners' World by presenter Nick Bailey...

    I've always liked Sorbus vilmorinii and he showed us the variety 'Pink Charm' I think it was called... only grows to 10 foot or so, maybe 15 after a long time...
    ..they're not cheap... but these would not interfere with your pond...

    The problem with evergreens is that they shed leaves throughout the year, whereas with deciduous at least you know when it's going to happen and covers a brief period... so I don't mind those types of trees personally, in the situation envisaged... and you won't get too much from the Vilmorin sorbus...
  • LuckyheatherLuckyheather Scotland Posts: 64
    Thanks to everyone who has given me their advice on the subject of trees, I will certainly be looking into the names you have mentioned. 
  • Paul B3Paul B3 Posts: 2,941
    Maybe try a different type of small/medium tree ?.....I'm thinking of Aralia elata , the Japanese Angelica Tree .
    Large leaves which colour well in Autumn ; flowers in August when others don't ; massive white flower panicles ; black berries much appreciated by the birds .

  • Paul B3 ...is this something that you grow?

    Aralia elata ...love it.
    However it does get rather large.
    It also suckers a lot.
    Possibly enough to puncture a pond liner.

    https://www.chewvalleytrees.co.uk/products/detail/aralia-elata

    Quote from above site...

    "Japanese Angelica-tree is striking because of its large double pinnate leaves up to 3ft long and the big white bunches of flowers late in summer.

    It is mostly grown as a multi-stemmed shrub or small tree with erect branched stems and an umbrella like crown.  It normally gets to 5m (18ft) tall and about 3m (10ft) wide.

    It has some disadvantages too, the stem and branches are covered with spines and the plant has tendency to sucker strongly from its roots."

    Pics below show our fairly young Aralia elata.
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • Paul B3Paul B3 Posts: 2,941
    Silver Surfer

    Yes , I've had this species in my garden for around 25-years now , though nowhere as large as yours (it has a lot of competition around it) .
    Height wise , mine is around 12' , single trunk but multi-stemmed from about 5' high .

    I love this tree , came from my late fathers garden ; originally a 'sucker' from a garden near Ravenshead , Nottinghamshire .
    Even now , my wife & I refer to it as 'Dads tree' !
    Have always thought about the variegated forms , one in particular :-

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