More plant ID's that I forgot earlier!
Both of these are growing as large (10ft) free-standing shrubs. I have no idea what the first plant is but the thorns on it are very sharp and about an inch long and the shrub is very dense (first two pictures):
This second plant isn't H. anomala or Schizophragma. Any ideas? Many thanks.






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Second one could be a cornus ???
3rd - hydrangea petiolaris ?
Known in my garden as Ouchyousonofabarstud.
A glow worm's never glum
Cos how can you be grumpy
When the sun shines out your bum!
Pyracantha is a possibility for the first plant (first two photos). Would you get P. that never have flowers or berries, just leaves? The plant hasn't been pruned in any way for over 3 years so they haven't been cut off.