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MMflowerMMflower Posts: 77
Hi, can someone please recommend varieties of  really dark red/crimson roses? The darker the better and preferably fragrant. Thank you!🙂
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  • K67K67 Leicestershire Posts: 2,507
    Have a look at David Austin website, they do give information on strength of scent. 
    Saying that I did buy Clare Austin but couldn't smell much, seems there are certain types of scent we can't always detect.
    If you are close enough a trip to his show garden now would enable you to test smell or indeed any garden centre with good rose stocks, then  you could ask members about specific varities. 
  • B3B3 Posts: 21,471
    edited June 2018
    This is my darkest one. I grow it in a large container

    Ps this is not mine but they look exactly the same.
    Scented as well but I don't find it particularly strong
     Oops I didn't say the name. Dark Secret
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 18,444

    Have a look at these, Peter Beales Classic Roses, the site helps you find the sort of rose you want. You haven't said if you are looking for bush roses, shrubs, climbers, ramblers, repeat flowerers etc.

    https://www.classicroses.co.uk/roses.html?p=1&pbr_rose_colour=15 

    Dordogne and Norfolk
  • MMflowerMMflower Posts: 77
    edited June 2018
    Busy-Lizzie, I don’t mind the type - I can find a place for it in the garden. At the moment, have a want for a striking dark rose 🙂
    B3, that looks wonderful - ahh got the name. Will look out for it.
    I have Munstead Wood from DA and Dublin Bay but was looking for something even darker.
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 9,597
    David Austin have one called chianti with a strong perfume, it grows quite large though!
  • B3B3 Posts: 21,471
    I have a Dublin Bay rose. Lovely smell, beautiful flowers but a practically untrainable stubborn b####r. I'm told that its excuse is that it's a pillar rose rather than a climber. Wish I'd known there was such a thing before I planted it!
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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  • NollieNollie Girona, Catalunya, Northen Spain.Posts: 5,642
    Louis XIV (on Peter Beales’ site) looks proper dark red, but is it?  Reds always turn out more pink in my climate (with the exception of RD Braithwaite, a true crimson, but no scent) and I know @Fire has been looking for a good red recently. Is a good dark red rose a myth?
  • MMflowerMMflower Posts: 77
    @Nollie, the Louis XIV rose has been described as one of the darkest roses on the Trevor White roses site. Also Guinee seems to be a really dark rose and also Empereur du Maroc. 
  • FireFire LondonPosts: 14,021
    MM, are you looking for a shrub rose or a climber?

    I am amazed how much a rose plant changes season by season, in strong sun and out of it, year by year. Other plants too. I think it's not a safe bet to know what colour any rose is going to be on any given month. Scent too seems to change a great deal, depending on the age of the particular flower, sun levels, amount of rain and all sorts of mystical factors.
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