Clematis viticella 'Abundance'

Dovefromabove

We're trying to choose a viticella clematis for our pergola ... we're looking for a plummy colour similar to C. viticella Purpurea Plena Elegans which we have elsewhere in the garden ... we've been looking at 'Abundance' ..... the descriptions of the colour are more on the 'pink' side and photos online vary quite widely  

 https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=clematis+viticella+abundance&rlz=1C1PRFC_enGB734GB735&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqsouD2LnbAhWIasAKHbJEAewQ_AUICigB&biw=1093&bih=530 

As an artist I'm very aware of how much colours can vary in photographs ... does anyone grow this clematis and if so, how would you describe the colour?

Hostafan1

Where's @Richard Hodson ? He'll know for sure. 

Hostafan1

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Obelixx

I think it's a bit pink Dove.  Have suggested on Forkers that you have a look at I am Happy which is a very dusky red in this garden - deeper than the photo suggests.  http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/new-clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=3699

Dovefromabove

Thanks Obs ... I am Happy (very odd name) is another that I'd been looking at ... will give it more consideration 

Obelixx

It is an odd name but that grower seems to like "I am...."   I am Red Robin is another very good one but a group 1 with small dusky red flowers with a rich cream interior.   Tough as old boots in my Belgian garden but a tad unsightly in winter so not for a prominent position on a pergola - http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/new-clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=3222  Much stronger dusky red than this photo too.

Hostafan1

I have this one, and it's pretty close to these images.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1517&bih=688&ei=IA0VW-aOKcvmsAfu46zwBw&q=clematis+westerplatte&oq=clematis+wes&gs_l=img.1.2.0l5j0i8i30k1l5.949.3438.0.6002.12.10.0.2.2.0.282.1395.2j6j2.10.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.12.1412....0.E9rlnw4ngow 

Hostafan1

Mine this morning.

I'm happy that's the colour of mine. 

Dovefromabove

@Hostafan1  ... That is gorgeous   ... but I'm really looking for a viticella for that spot ... However, if Daniel Deronda a bit further along that border doesn't pull his socks up he may well be replaced with Westernplatte ... I shall go and tell him ...