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Young rose plant bought from a florist

On impulse I bought what I thought was a single rose plant, to plant in a container outside. I now see that it is actually four plants in a small pot 16.5cm wide x 13cm high. What should I do? Separate them and put one in a large pot and the others in the ground? My pot is huge, going by the maxim for roses of 60cm x 60cm cube although it is narrower at the bottom. They look very young and some of the stems are still not woody. I hope you can see from the picture.

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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 83,757
    If sold by a florist it may be a less hardy type intended for forcing and hothouse growing, particularly as it's obviously been forced into flower. 


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Well, I live in Cyprus and some roses have been blooming outside throughout the winter, in fairly protected conditions (houses on either side and opposite on a narrow road), but this looks a bit different. I rather think it was sold as a ‘patio rose’ as it is rather delicate looking, but there was no way of telling and no label. Maybe I will knock it out of the pot, as you suggest, just to see how many plants there are, and start by putting it into a pot that’s just a bit larger. Thank you.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 83,757
    Ah ... Cyprus ... that's different ... should be fine outside then  :)

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Have just inspected them - there are four, and each one’s roots seem to be encased in a plug as I imagine rootstock roses are like (have never opened one to see).  So I could plant them out separately - more than one to a 60cm x 60cm pot would be too much, even though they grow no more than a metre, I was told. Don’t you think?
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,103
    For now, just plant each one into a 10 to 15cm pot, depending on root size and let them grow on individually.  I would remove flowers and buds as you go so they can concentrate on roots for now.   Keep an eye on each pot and re-pot as they start to outgrow their first pots. 

    Work up gradually to bigger pots.  No need to keep removing the flowers after the first move.    It's a bit more work but you should end up with 4 good plants.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • Thank you, Obelixx. That’s very helpful, though it breaks my heart to cut off all those flower buds!
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,103
    They'll soon grow back once the roots get away but you don't want them trying to flower and grow roots all at once.  They'll be exhausted.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,835
    I would just leave them if it was mine, and perhaps pot it into a little bit bigger pot, no need for anything too large, 60 x  60 cm is unnecessarily large at this stage.  
    I buy these from supermarkets here, and like to grow a few in my greenhouse, but they also do well outside, but will stop flowering if I put them outside now, it's too cold, but will recover later on..
    There are usually 3 or 4 rooted plants in each pot but as I only keep these plants for 2 seasons before chucking them out and buying fresh ones, it's not worth splitting them.
    Best of luck with whatever you decide to do, and enjoy your roses..

    Here's a photo from last year..


    East Anglia, England
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